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ALoveSupreme:

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Opiate and Undertow seemed honest, Aenima seemed like a real progression from the first stuff.  Lateralus seemed like a progression in some ways, but not really in others.  And where they "progressed" I didn't really like the direction they took.  I mean, I enjoyed the album, but I only really liked a couple of songs on it.  It didn't strike me as being anywhere near as good as Aenima.  It also seemed kind of pretentious, like it was trying to be some kind of spiritual experience or something.

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Why is it pretentious to try to create a spiritual context for your songs?  Is there not a certain divinity in music that they are attempting to connect with and express?  

I know Jeph has likened listening to Broken Social Scene to a spiritual experience, so why should that not be equally valid in the case of Tool?
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I'm a Tool fan, and I totally see Est's point.  The BSS spritiual experience is one that is created by the listener, not forced by the artist.  I.E., the pretention (and if I may inject another over-used word, the irony) comes from Tool trying to market their music as a religious experience.

Again, I like Tool a lot, but I have developed reservations regarding the band over the years.

Hat:
Personally, my favorite thing about the new Tool album is that it doesn't try to fuck around with some etherial asthetic like Lateralus did, but thats just me. There are still some trippy out there songs, but they lyrics seem a lot more personal and less metaphorical.

Misereatur:

--- Quote from: est ---Opiate and Undertow seemed honest, Aenima seemed like a real progression from the first stuff.  Lateralus seemed like a progression in some ways, but not really in others.  And where they "progressed" I didn't really like the direction they took.  I mean, I enjoyed the album, but I only really liked a couple of songs on it.  It didn't strike me as being anywhere near as good as Aenima.  It also seemed kind of pretentious, like it was trying to be some kind of spiritual experience or something.

Anyways, this new album reminds me of the last one.  There are some good bits to the new songs, but that's mostly because they are the same kind of good bits from previous songs rehashed into this new pretentious format.  Not sure I'll buy the album, I mean, I've already got the other albums.  If I want to listen to that kind of stuff I'll just grab one of the older ones.
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QFT.

This thread had lost its point a page ago. Stop it.

 SO, IN CONCLUSION:
-Tool's new album was leaked.
-Its not very good, or original. But some of the fans like it.
-Some of Tool's fans are obnoxious little brats.
-Most of this forum does not like Tool.


END OF THREAD

strawberry_gashes:

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QFT.

This thread had lost its point a page ago. Stop it.

 SO, IN CONCLUSION:
-Tool's new album was leaked.
-Its not very good, or original. But some of the fans like it.
-Some of Tool's fans are obnoxious little brats.
-Most of this forum does not like Tool.


END OF THREAD
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*Now let me be the obnoxious one to break that*
That's a nice thought, but seeing this forum, I'm not sure that's really gonna happen... you know, ending threads and all.
(Any way, their new CD came ot yesterday, so there's no "edge" in the leak anymore.)

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