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Garcin:
I agree broadly with what you have said.  It should be the artist's choice whether or not a musical work can be obtained and kept without purchasing it.  If the artist wants to be paid for her art, then that decision should be respected.  I don't see this as very controversial.


--- Quote from: qtownstegy ---Music should be seen as an art form, and if people want to pay you for it then that's a bonus.
--- End quote ---


Music as art and music as business is a false dichotomy.  I think that some of the people posting in this thread have some rather romantic and ill-conceived notions of what art is.  As I mentioned in another thread, a conventional understanding of "art" involves the conscious use of skill and creative imagination, especially in the production of aesthetic objects.  (Cribbed from Merriam-Webster's!)  In no way must this conflict with earning money, or creating art in a way that is profitable.  There is no reason why the profit motive has to so derail the artist's creativity that the music ceases to qualify as a creative expression in the first place.

Jedit:

--- Quote from: DynamiteKid ---Look, I don't get paid to make music or anything. Music is my passion, it's my life. Listening to it, writing it, writing about it, analyzing it.

But if it was my job, then I'd naturally want to get paid for doing my job well.

Surely SOMEONE here can see my point of view.
--- End quote ---


Of course we can.  OTOH, if a musician wants to be paid well they should take it up with the bloodsucking scum who release the records.

Kai:

--- Quote from: DynamiteKid ---Look, I don't get paid to make music or anything. Music is my passion, it's my life. Listening to it, writing it, writing about it, analyzing it.

But if it was my job, then I'd naturally want to get paid for doing my job well.

Surely SOMEONE here can see my point of view.

--- End quote ---


Note: I was totally agreeing with you. I would love to be able to eat if I was doing this professionally.


Yes, I pirate music. I pirate it like crazy. I try to buy cds and whatnot when I can, and if a group I love is coming, I will totally do what I can to see them.

Plus there's always the availability issue. Walk into any cd store and ask for a Sopor Aeternus album or a Current 93 album. It's pretty hard.

E. Spaceman:

--- Quote from: Moiche ---I agree broadly with what you have said.  It should be the artist's choice whether or not a musical work can be obtained and kept without purchasing it.  If the artist wants to be paid for her art, then that decision should be respected.  I don't see this as very controversial.


--- Quote from: E. Spaceman ---Music should be seen as an art form, and if people want to pay you for it then that's a bonus.
--- End quote ---


Music as art and music as business is a false dichotomy.  I think that some of the people posting in this thread have some rather romantic and ill-conceived notions of what art is.  As I mentioned in another thread, a conventional understanding of "art" involves the conscious use of skill and creative imagination, especially in the production of aesthetic objects.  (Cribbed from Merriam-Webster's!)  In no way must this conflict with earning money, or creating art in a way that is profitable.  There is no reason why the profit motive has to so derail the artist's creativity that the music ceases to qualify as a creative expression in the first place.
--- End quote ---


I fully agree with you, however I would like to note that the quote you used was not mine.

Garcin:
Sorry dude, fixed that.

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