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El Opium:
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So I can't pay collector scum $50 on ebay for OOP releases? Should I throw away my record player because most of the vinyl on the market is used? Is Amok just trying to rock the boat? What if musicians aern't in it to make money and only play on the occaisional weekend?
Seriously, telling people to only buy new stuff comes close to supporting censorship, and most smaller record shops do the majority of their business in used goods.

amok:
I can't afford to buy all the music I listen to but in my mind I justify it by going to gigs whenever humanly possible, as artists make more money this way anyway.

I'd quite happily send £2 or whatever to a band for downloading their album, which is more than they'd get from my buying the CD, I just don't make enough to keep up with exorbitantly overpriced albums (but that's a different rant).

AceGun:
I didn't notice how much music I was downloading until I lost my broadband connection at the beginning of this school year.  My CD purchases fell greatly as well, since I will rarely ever buy a CD without hearing it first.

Now that I got a job just sitting at a computer all day, I can scour the internet for free samples and my CD purchases have greatly increased.  I will usually download about 12 CD's whenever I spend the weekend at my parent's though.

As far as the artists losing money, I've actually met bands that I loved but had never actually bought any of their albums.  I have felt so bad that I've given a few of them $5 out of my pocket just so I don't feel guilty.  It's a lot more than they'd ever make off of a single CD (depending on their label, of course).

jose:
I don't really care enough about any singular artist to feel bad for hearing their shit without buying it.  until the market conforms to my needs (unlimited downloading of EVERYTHING for a set price, royalties given based on ratio of downloads etc) I will continue to download at will and prey that the riaa doesn't sue me

strangely enough no one seemed to care that 99 percent of my cd collection was used even though that doesn't support artists (except maybe in some abstract way that it props up indie record stores)

alyosha:
I was a pirate until Kazaa destroyed my computer with cookies.  Since then, if I hear something I like, I'll buy the song off of iTunes.  If I like 3 songs off an album, I buy an album.  There have been a few exceptions to my rule of three, when I'd buy an album after 1 or 2 songs, but I normally stick tot hat rule.

If I dont have enough to buy the album in the store, I'll download it from iTUnes in full-- this usually saves me 6-10 dollars per album, and then I have the album in both CD format and mp3 format.

When I used to pirate, I'd mostly pirate what I aready had in cassette format, very obscure music, or live tracks.  I had one rule, which I still stick to:

If an artist is new, or struggling, I'll buy the album.

That said:

The biggest drawback to Piracy, or even to legal downloading, is that artists have forgotten the art of making an album.  They write singles, put a few good ones on an album in a random order, and fill the rest of the album with filler.  Why?  because singles are what sell nowadays.  There used to be a time when you'd go into a record store on a release date, and the album would be sold out.  Maybe i just listen to crappy music, but I can't remember the last time that happened.

On top of that, independant record stores are disappearing at an enormous rate, because ALBUMS ARENT SELLING.

As to music as art/money making:

Even the "purest" artist needs to buy equiptment.  COuld Monet have painted if he hadn;t the money to buy paint?  Basically, by paying for music, we are putting money back into the industry so that artists can afford instruments/accessories, Labels can afford to hire promoters, studios can afford recording equipment, etc.  Without these things, the music would never get to us.

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