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The Indie-ification of Ian Bryce
Merkava:
--- Quote from: Kid Modernist ---Man, I am so tired of people calling everything indie. IT IS NOT A GENRE. All it means is that a band is on an independant label.
I'm not saying this to be cool or "Yeah, I'm past careing about indie music." It's just selling yourself short because there is so much music out there that to confine yourself to what is popular (And get over it, "indie" is popular now, not obscure, not elitist, not an in crowd, they sell it at Wal Mart) is so retarded. Don't get into Indie, it is just another word for alternative which is now just another word for people with a lot of money making money of people with not a lot of money by selling them prepackaged SHIT.
It really sucks, because I know how useless this argument is, because 1) I probably am not making much sense. 2) Even if I do make sense, there are a hundred million people that will still talk about "INDIE MUSIC OMG" so I guess I should just relax and go with the flow till it passes like every other fad.
/rant I guess.
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I always thought of Indie as the sound and underground as the status. When I listen to bands within the indie "genre", they sound simmilar to eachother, but seperate from other styles of rock. Pavement doesn't sound like, say, Pearl Jam or Blink-182, and neither do bands like Built to Spill or Modest Mouse or Sonic Youth.
Sorry for the off topicness.
KharBevNor:
Combine the female vocalists and the jazz and the avant-garde!
Diamanda Galas is the way forward!
You cannot argue with 'The Singer' (best rendition of Gloomy Sunday I've ever heard) or 'Plague Mass'.
Filk:
--- Quote from: Slick ---Quick word(s) on 'indie':
No, indie is not a genre. There is much eye-rolling when people say I'm an indie hipster. Then again, I sometimes call myself an indie-rock hipster for simplicity.
Indie-rock/pop/folk/whatever is more like a genre, but possibly a redundant term. Iron & Wine isn't folk, it's indie-folk? [sarcasm]Does that make sense?[/sarcasm]
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Have you ever wondered why there's no such thing as indie-rap, indie-punk or indie-metal even though there's plenty of bands who fit the criteria of being 'different', 'new', 'creative', 'fun', 'stimulating' and don't get signed by big labels?
That's because indie, while technically not being a genre, has developed a defined sound. When i hear indie-rock i already have a vague idea what the band is going to sound like.
KharBevNor:
I hear the term indie rap bandied about quite a lot, almost all punk that actually deserves the name is 'indie' anyway (to the point where it is better to point out the exceptions, ie pop-punk) and metal is either metal or not metal. If something is actually metal (which a lot of 'non indie' metal isn't, ie nu-metal) then it will normally be judged by its merits, not its record label. Metalheads care not whether a band is a multi-platinum selling act on a major label (ie Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden) or runs its own record label, releases 666 hand-numbered copies of each album and presses its vinyl in the bassists garage, as long as it's good, which makes the idea of indie or non indie metal somewhat pointless.
In some genres, such as most old-school industrial and post-industrial stuff, everyone is indie, so the distinction is moot.
Johnny C:
Indie rap exists, actually. And "punk" already should connote "indie" - if we have to at all insert something declaring individuality, creativity and DIY-ness next to "punk" then something is terribly wrong. Last, I don't know about indie-metal, but there's like art-metal and shit out there. Indie kids seem to like that.
Also: You may like some of Bjork's more electronic stuff. Maybe. I don't know. And I'm not sure about p:ano but you might like them.
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