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The Indie-ification of Ian Bryce
Cernunnos:
by avant garde, what bands do you mean, kai? i am very curious about this stuff.
Rubby:
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--- Quote from: Rubby ---Why do you care so much? Really?
edit: That was directed at Kid Modernist.
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People debating? .... On the internert?
I don't know that seems like a weird thing to say. It's not like I'm screaming at the top of my lungs, or repeating myself again and again. I made my argument and so on. "Why do you care so much?" sounds like a copout.
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It is a cop-out. This has all gotten so ridiculous; I really don’t see the point in trying to challenge someone’s viewpoint in regards to the subject. The topic’s been beaten to death 20 or 30 time now.
Kai:
--- Quote from: Cernunnos ---by avant garde, what bands do you mean, kai? i am very curious about this stuff.
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I made a nice little list to start out with here:
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/viewtopic.php?t=10673&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50
Also, The Nurse With Wound List is a pretty good list.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/nww/nwwlist.html
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: Storm Rider ---So you're suggesting something has to be ambient to be arty?
...I'm not understanding your distinction.
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I'm pretty sure (though I unfortunately can't source for you, given that I don't recall the exact quotes) that the bands listed have all declared a specific intent to venture into unexplored avenues of metal and find art therein - as opposed to, say, someone who just wants their riffs to eat you, or enjoys proclaming your doom for the sheer giddy rush of it all. Hence, I consider those bands "art-metal." I hope that clears things up.
And if you want to consider later-era Death art-metal, if the shoe fits, shove it up a non-krieg's ass.
Storm Rider:
I wasn't trying to discredit you with that example, I just wasn't sure how exactly it applied to the situation.
Really, I think art-metal is sorta like speed metal: while you can argue it has definite characteristics, it's generally not as good of a way to describe a band as more conventional terms.
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