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The Indie-ification of Ian Bryce

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KharBevNor:
I just generally dislike the banner art-metal, because it either means nothing,  or it means whatever metal bands are hip, or it is synonymous with post-metal, or it means every metal band whose main intention is to create art of whatever form and not entertain, which must be a good half of all metal bands, covering everything from Kayo Dot to Edge of Sanity by way of ...And Oceans and Dark Tranquillity. If there is a better genre to describe a band, just use it I say. And I say this as someone who fully subscribes to genres like cybermetal and forest metal.

pat101:

--- Quote from: Kai ---I think we should all just listen to the avant garde.



But that's just me.
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fuck yeah

Kai:
Oh shit, there's like three or four of us.



Let's make a club.



With club sandwhiches.



"I like sprouts on my sandwhiches."
"Well then you're out of the fucking club!"


This is a very disjointed post.

Storm Rider:

--- Quote from: Johnny C ---
--- Quote from: Kai ---Course, what you silly kids call art metal isn't very arty. At least from what I've heard referred to it. Say, Pelican. They are totally not art metal. People totally should not refer to them like that (at least two people I know. So.)
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I consider art metal to be metal with a decidedly artistic intent, and yes that DOES refer to certain bands. One, if Pelican isn't art-metal, with their double kick drums, machine-gun riffs, and drop-tuned guitars combined with ambient soundscapes, what are they? And secondly, Sunn-O))), Isis and Khanate, for example, fall under the "art-metal" banner. And third, artists can be classified as more than one genre. And fourth, before you launch Fantomas or anything at me, "art" is not synonymous with "confusing and alienating."

POW, mothafucka.
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So you're suggesting something has to be ambient to be arty? That doesn't really make any sense to me. And by your definition of Pelican, I could call later-era Death, with their inclusion of Spanish acoustic interludes, jazz phrasing and so on, 'art metal'.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a jackass. I love Isis and have a casual interest in Pelican and Sunn-O))) (though their name is a pain in the ass), but I'm not understanding your distinction.

Kid Modernist:

--- Quote from: Rubby ---Why do you care so much? Really?
edit: That was directed at Kid Modernist.
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People debating? .... On the internert?

I don't know that seems like a weird thing to say. It's not like I'm screaming at the top of my lungs, or repeating myself again and again. I made my argument and so on. "Why do you care so much?" sounds like a copout.

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