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The new X-men(HELLA SPOILERS!)
Gryff:
Okay, I am definitely a comic book nerd, and I hated X3, however…
…it's not because the movie was different to the comics. The first two movies were quite different to the comics, but I still thought they were pretty enjoyable. The problem with X3 was that the script was apalling (nobody cared that Cyclops was dead, Magneto's attack on the Worthington complex was stock standard and dull), the dialogue was beyond cringeworthy ("What have I done?" "Way to go, fuzzball"), there was no character development whatsoever (Rogue disappears for ages and comes back with no powers, Angel was not even relevant. wtf?), the action scenes were okay sometimes (Kitty versus Juggernaught, Beast kicking ass) but terrible at others (the otherwise boring fight with Magneto's army of generic nobodies, Iceman and Pyro's shitty, predictable fight).
The reason that comic book geeks are getting so worked up about inconsistencies and changes is that the X-men have so many cool characters, stories and ideas, and X3 made use of none of them. Basically, the fact that such a terrible movie was made from such a cool source makes fans of the source angry.
It's not that it was different. It's that it sucked.
donovangelonardo:
I'm one of the people who liked it, but it did let me down in several areas, and those are valid complaints. After watching X2, I remember how tiny of a part Cyclops had in it. He was barely there at all! So when trailers for X3 came out and showed him all scruffy and mean lookin, I (and others) thought, "Sweet! After the shit-part he had in X2, Cyc is gonna redeem himself by being badass! Blow some stuff up!" and we were ALL hoping he and Wolverine would beat the organs out of each other once, to settle things. If they had done that, and given Cyclops his day BEFORE killing him off, I'd be happy. That's my major complaint. I feel the same about Rogue: after being crucial to the first movie, she was negligible and worthless in the second, so I hoped she'd be better off in the third. Nope, she got the same treatment as Cyclops. It's as if the director KNEW people were let down by these characters in X2, but didn't know how to fix it or didn't have the time in the movie, which is a valid problem.
Everybody seems offended by the depowering of Magneto (and probably Prof X) but hey, doesn't that sort of mirror what's happening in the comics right now? I'm not a comic snob, and haven't read X-men.... ever, but even I know the current arc includes a MASS depowering. Also, think back to X1: Magneto's first attack was to try and mass-mutate all those humans. Fitting that he should get turned into a human in the end, eh?
Final thought: Guys, if there's a Wolverine spinoff, how can Gambit NOT be in it?? Calm down, if these spinoffs happen we are going to get inundated with new characters in every movie. Remy will be there.
Gryff:
--- Quote from: donovangelonardo ---Guys, if there's a Wolverine spinoff, how can Gambit NOT be in it??
--- End quote ---
Quite easily really, considering how much backstory Wolverine has and how little of it concerns Gambit.
Gryff:
--- Quote from: Spinless ---The bald guy wolverine fought who kept regenerating his arms? Apparently people are saying it's Deadpool.
--- End quote ---
No way. I refuse to believe it.
On another note: in the credits was a character called "Omega Mutie". Hmm.
poeticallybored:
IMDB has the guy who played Quill as "Kid Omega." Kid Omega is way different. And on the quotes page, they have him named as Spike, though Spike was the guy who was throwing the bone-like spikes at Wolverine in the forest.
They also have Omega Red listed as a character. What the hell?
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