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Most people don't understand film as an artform
Kana:
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Am I wrong in thinking that his point was Tarantino's work isn't art (which I disagree with but hey, whatev), and not that it's bad?
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I took the intent of his post as saying all movies are supposed to be an artform which I agree with, however he stated that such films are not art, which I took as meaning it was a bad movie then.
And to bujiatang, when I said over-analyzing that includes adding your own perogative or meaning/intent behind the art. Out of 4-5 art history classes I took, only one of them didn't try to tell the students the meaning of each work unless stated by the artist and that was my modern/contemporary art class which was one of the most controversial classes I took at college. Nothing like a bunch of Texans debating whether or not a stack of firebricks that some guy positioned is art, or just a stack of firebricks. The british museum that spent a ton on accquring the piece seem to disagree with the consensus of my other texan friends. :)
Ribbon Fat:
--- Quote from: bujiatang ---I'd say there are plenty of good reasons to not like Citizen Kane. For one thing, the abandonment of the Coleridge. In no way did the use of Kubla Kahn give the movie continuity. It served as a distraction. A good McGuffin should lead the audience, not make them go "shwa."
I've watched the movie three times through and like it less now than the first two times I tried to watch it and fell asleep. Why not watch macbeth if want to see Wells bellowing in the dark.
If you think attention to detail makes good film then watching Ozu's Tokyo Story should be on you to do list. Or CHung King Express. Or even Pirates of the Caribean. Or any movie other than Scotland PA. Becasue every cinematographer worth their salt pays attention to camera angles. And sometimes they still botch the shots like in the Manchurian Canidate where Frank Sinatra is completely out of focus at the crucial moment of the reprogramming.
I see nothing wrong with analyzing film or literature or any art for that matter. What I am opposed to is the practice of imposing meaning on art. the "this is what is happening here" rhetoric is disgusting and imperialistic. I claim this art in the name of Freud. might as well be an agent for a trading company--lets go rape the natives and make money on reproductions of what we discovered. but I digress.
lets be resisting readers and look for hidden motifs or implications without creating hidden motifs or implications as we watch our movies and read our books and look at interesting things.
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Holy fucking lol. I concede to you. Please go on trolling, please more posts like this.
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: bujiatang ---lets be resisting readers and look for hidden motifs or implications without creating hidden motifs or implications as we watch our movies and read our books and look at interesting things.
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I have an old textbook on short stories called Story & Structure, and when it gets to the section about finding motifs and symbols it has a little analogy. Finding motifs and symbols is like jumping for a boat. You don't want to overshoot it, and you don't want to jump at a boat that isn't there. You'll just end up cold.
KharBevNor:
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Holy fucking lol. I concede to you. Please go on trolling, please more posts like this.
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Translation: I have no serious points with which to argue with you, but I still feel like ridiculing you because you have offended my doctrinarian sensibilities.
Citizen Kane was okay, I thought. Nowhere near the best film I've ever seen, of course, but not bad by any means.
Ribbon Fat:
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Holy fucking lol. I concede to you. Please go on trolling, please more posts like this.
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Translation: I have no serious points with which to argue with you, but I still feel like ridiculing you because you have offended my doctrinarian sensibilities.
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Dude, his post made no sense. It was a riot. I seriously wasnt more like this. I'll offer to do them myself if you guys want.
I mean: "For one thing, the abandonment of the Coleridge. In no way did the use of Kubla Kahn give the movie continuity. It served as a distraction."
It's like he put his post through Babelfish.
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