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Garcin:
It's pretty straightforward really -- Kane/Hearst created a "pleasure dome" he called "Xanadu". At one point in the movie, text from Coleridge's poem "Kubla Khan" is superimposed over a shot of Xanadu/Kane's residence. Upon Kane's death he is referred to as "Kubla Khan".
bujiatang refers to this allusion, and suggests that it was a throwaway, that it was not really explored or integrated into the movie. I would disagree with this sentiment. It could have been more felicitously stated. But I understand where he's coming from.
Ribbon Fat, you're new around here, so I'm going to clue you in. There are some fairly bright people who post around here. Occasionally they may post something that you don't understand -- perhaps because you're not bright enough, perhaps because you're not well-read enough, or perhaps because you're simply not trying very hard. My suggestion to you is that rather than assuming that the post is nonsense -- because you don't understand it -- you educate yourself a bit. Who knows. You may learn something.
But do refrain from publicizing your ignorance. It's tedious.
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: bujiatang ---A good McGuffin should lead the audience, not make them go "shwa."
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I remember an episode of Sam & Max where they had to retreive the missing McGuffin.
Ribbon Fat:
--- Quote from: Moiche ---It's pretty straightforward really -- Kane/Hearst created a "pleasure dome" he called "Xanadu". At one point in the movie, text from Coleridge's poem "Kubla Khan" is superimposed over a shot of Xanadu/Kane's residence. Upon Kane's death he is referred to as "Kubla Khan".
bujiatang refers to this allusion, and suggests that it was a throwaway, that it was not really explored or integrated into the movie. I would disagree with this sentiment. It could have been more felicitously stated. But I understand where he's coming from.
Ribbon Fat, you're new around here, so I'm going to clue you in. There are some fairly bright people who post around here. Occasionally they may post something that you don't understand -- perhaps because you're not bright enough, perhaps because you're not well-read enough, or perhaps because you're simply not trying very hard. My suggestion to you is that rather than assuming that the post is nonsense -- because you don't understand it -- you educate yourself a bit. Who knows. You may learn something.
But do refrain from publicizing your ignorance. It's tedious.
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Holy fucking shit.
Garcin:
--- Quote from: Johnny C ---I remember an episode of Sam & Max where they had to retreive the missing McGuffin.
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This is awesome. I miss Sam & Max. Wasn't a new computer game supposed to come out?
According to Wikipedia:
--- Quote from: Wikipedia ---The Double McGuffin (1979) and The McGuffin (1985) are noteworthy for the contextual use of the term in their titles. The 1979 film does indeed involve two MacGuffins: a briefcase full of money and a dead body, both of which subsequently disappear.
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I haven't seen either.
Ribbon Fat:
I mean the Kubla Kahn quote is part of the NEWSREEL that opens the film. It's in no way a macguffin at fucking all.
But let me clue you in: This whole thread was also a half joke, and many of the things I said are really just abstractions of what I really do believe about cinema. But keep taking the bait. I'll be around, unless you pussily ban me because you can't stand a little controversy.
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