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Is it a waste?
trolley:
YOUR TOTALY RONG!
Hardy ha. I'm not anywhere near familiar with the hip hop or electronica scene (does daft punk count?), but i could see how what you say makes sense. if only for the reason that the typical band setup as you described it has been around so much longer. If you leave all the "possibilities are endless!" crap at the door, there's only so much that can be done with a guitar before you start doing something someone else did before you.
The only bands who are really making any real musical progress are the ones who are drifting quite significantly from the typical song structure and using rather unconventional sound. But whilst this is progression, you've be hard pressed to call Broken Social Scene easily accessible. This type of music has been forced into the strange wilderness extremes of the genre to find new sounds.
Conversely, the relative newness of Hip Hop and Electronica means that they're are still uncharted musical territories that artists can still "do", and be remembered as the first to do them.
TrueNeutral:
--- Quote from: Storm Rider ---I never said 'jangly' doesn't apply to music, I said I don't like the term. I think that there are better ways to describe music than 'jangly'. The term absolutely oozes pretentiousness.
But no, I've never heard Drive like Jehu. But what is angular supposed to mean? I mean, how can sound be angular?
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You know, I honestly didn't know the term jangly was ever used in a non-ironic manner.
MilkmanDan:
--- Quote from: elcapitan ---As I see it, a LOT of the most groundbreaking music is being made in the electronic and hip-hop genres. Production-wise, this is where the boundaries are being pushed - and this has been the case for many years. I'm not talking about your cheesy house or top-40 RnB either, but rather in the more "niche" areas, such as minimalist techno and some of the more unusual flavours of hip-hop.
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Yes. Electronic music is still doing all sorts of new and exciting things that are not just better than 30 years ago, but would have been completely inconceivable back then.
This is also the reason why the early 90's were the best thing ever.
Though I don't believe the guitar stuff being made now is worse than the all that parents style stuff either. I don't really know, but it seems unlikely. I'd rather listen to Battles than Led Zeppelin, that's for sure.
KharBevNor:
There are no good bands at all nowadays anywhere near the mainstream. I know this because I have listened to Radio 1 for long periods of (forced) time back in my art classes, and I didn't hear a single good thing.
Spout all your hipster pants crap as long as you all want, but it will always be my opinion that the 1980's were a watershed as far as music is concerned, an unprecedented burst of creativity and awesomeness that spawned fuck knows how many genres and styles and ideas and bands that basically left everyone in the 90's and 00's with shit all to do but copy their asses off or write fucking pop. Also, I seriously think the end of the cold war has a LOT to do with it.
Bunnyman:
I think of it this way...
99% of released music is crap (+/- a few points). What this leaves us with is massive backrooms and clearance sections chock-full of unlistened 12", CDs, and casettes. This is the raw material that Hip-Hop and Electronic producers meticulously deconstruct to create new, fresh music.
And this pattern will continue. There will always be awful passing-fad one-album bands to fill the coffers, and cerebral hop/electronic will never reach the critical mass to exhaust this resource, as they lack more than a fleeting mass appeal by definition.
One could argue, likewise, that interest in classical and jazz is waning. While this is so, neither genre will die. Jazz is another wasteland of broken dreams for producers to harvest; Mozart and Bach are so timeless that it'd take a nuclear war, global pandemic, and asteroid collision combined to eliminate them from human civilization.
Summary: Less Fall Out, more Funkstorung.
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