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Battlestar Galactica and others
IRBABOON:
howdyness, are we talking ORIGINAL battle star, or the crappy re-make? cause the original is pretty fun to watch compared to the new one
Slick:
I believe we're talking re-make. The original is interesting, but you see it being dated. If I recall correctly, it's still the most expensive TV show ever made?
Ozy, I get what you mean about captain Kirk, but whereas he's the captain commissioned with making first contact, and starpollo are just a couple of ace pilots, it irks me that the story has been written in a way so we can follow our heroes. It's like a little reminder that yes, this is a TV show, and yes, it was written by people. I'd like it if they expanded the role of some marines or something (assuming there are any on board), and made them minor, recurring characters. The regulars could interact with them, and that could be cool.
That's just my preference though, and I am obviously not a TV producer.
dennis:
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--- Quote from: KOODustin on 15 Nov 2006, 08:37 ---Regarding the interrogation of Leoben, they didn't know at that point that the cylons were good at getting inside your head.
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Stop me if I'm wrong, but doesn't adama state that (paraphrase) 'I've dealt with this model before, it's good at getting your head and turning things around', in reference to the cylon he was stuck with on the armoury?
Also, the doggie-style and hair colour comments were more just hyperbole. In meat life, there is no one with whom to discuss such things for me, and I've been frustrated by the bigger details for about a year now.
I get that baltar had his interest in keeping the cylons undetected, but I got the impression that he couldn't detect them easily, even before the cylon-in-his-head broke him. Fuzzy memory may be to blame for that perception, though.
Limited population accounts for some problems, but I still don't like the fighter ace's being jack-of-all trades; I like a distributed cast better than the hero model. It could happen though. The feeling that it was more an artifact of the writers trying to give apollo and starbuck something new and exciting to do threw me off.
The point about the marines makes perfect sense, and this makes me happy.
You've assuaged some of my fears, so I may pick up the second season when I've got a spare stretch of time. Let me know if they say 'cluster-frak' or if a simulacrum says 'frog blast the vent core', however, because I'll be all over it in that case.
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I get the impression that you really have no intention of the giving the show a chance.
The fighter ace is not a jack-of-all trades. The reason he leads marines is because he's an officer with tactical experience, and in the first season, there aren't many like him.
These other things you're demanding from the show are unrealistic expectations. BSG isn't a space navy simulation, it's a drama. You're expected to suspend-your-disbelief. It was also in development as the first season progressed, so at times, they had to wing it.
Any drama has to deal with a limited cast because the audience can't be expected to deal with an entire carrier crew. Story arcs take precedence over technicalia. Some of the things you see are metaphors. Metaphors are handy because they communicate a lot of information and subtlety in a small amount of space. Caprica 6's lower back glows while she's fucking Baltar in order to draw significance to that event, not because someone decided that Cylons have a lumbar glow when they copulate. Not all mistakes and inaccuracies are forgivable of course, but not everything is a mistake, either.
Do you like any shows?
Slick:
--- Quote from: dennis on 17 Nov 2006, 05:43 ---I get the impression that you really have no intention of the giving the show a chance.
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No, the sensible arguments and dialog here have changed my mind, it's on my list of things to watch. Albeit, beneath a few other recommendations, but it's on there now.
--- Quote from: dennis on 17 Nov 2006, 05:43 ---Do you like any shows?
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Of course! I just had real high hopes that this would finally be the show I wanted, and then the show turned out to be not everything I had dreamed for. Then I was a little dissapointed. If it was still in development for the first season, that makes me feel a bit better about it.
Sorry for ranting, but I was hoping it wouldn't be so much drama. I am not a representative sample of the population, so I'll just have to take what I can get.
Ozymandias:
It should be noted that the Galactica is severely understaffed and anyone with the experience of Apollo or Starbuck is extremely valuable in any situation. It is not a state-of-the-art warship, it's a relic of an old war that was running a skeleton crew as it was being prepared to be turned into a museum. The people on that ship are not the best of the best of the best. Bill Adama and Tigh hold their command positions, not because they're brilliant, but because they were put out of the way where they weren't going to be on the front lines, let alone the last, best hope of humanity.
As such, it can pretty much be assumed that any marine details on Galactica that were there during the Cylon attack were not exactly 'all that they could be'.
If you watch the second season, that distinction that the Galactica and its crew were not the best in the fleet is made very apparent.
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