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« on: 16 Oct 2006, 06:48 »

Simple question.

What music do you love? Please give legitimate reasons, not just "they rule" or "the bass player respects people of the opposite sex" etc.

I'll start:

-Melodic punk rock.  It's very simple and unadorned, yet effective, and hell of fun to sing/yell along to.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #1 on: 16 Oct 2006, 15:07 »

I'll agree with the melodic bit (I love the Lawrence Arms, especially the songs that Chris sings), also a little bit of old school hardcore.

Sigur Ros, Motorhead, AC/DC, love them as well.

Also, anything I can just stick on in the background and listen to without skipping a track. I have iTunes on shuffle right now and it's been a bunch of Ted Leo, Islands, Beatles, Stars, and I'm From Barcelona. Wonderful stuff.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #2 on: 16 Oct 2006, 15:49 »

Freezepop. Jets to Brazil. Mclusky. there are more, of course. but that's all i'm saying right now.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #3 on: 16 Oct 2006, 15:53 »

I'm From Barcelona

Hurrah!  They're pretty much fantastic.  Was it the gabbly conversation that got you into them?
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #4 on: 16 Oct 2006, 16:02 »

When people ask me what kind of music I listen to I find it really hard to answer. I'm gonna need more time to think this up.

Also, Cernunnos, I did not read your post because I could'nt stop staring at your awsome avatar.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #5 on: 16 Oct 2006, 16:05 »

I win! From now on, I will  post nothing but gibberish, as making sense is not nesessary with this avatar.

on topic, i love Okgo, simply because of that one music video on the treadmills.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #6 on: 16 Oct 2006, 16:58 »

I like beard rock ie Bonnie "Prince" Billy (and everything else he goes by), Iron and Wine etc. It is perfect for mellowing out to, and it's perfect coffee/tea music.

New Weird America/Freak-folk because it is super fun, and I loooove things that are just plain weird. This also includes the older stuff like Love and Vashti Bunyan.

Elephant 6 anything. I'm just in love with them in the entirety, and like Tommy said, K Records. Calvin Johnson is a nice guy who gives good handshakes and hates strip malls (but likes NDians). His music is also really weird in a cuddly sorta way. Every indiepopper should go through a Beat Happening phase/obsession.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #7 on: 16 Oct 2006, 17:07 »

Boards of Canada - In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country

I brought this because it was on sale for <$5 and the name twigged a memory about a half heard conversation. I put it on in the car as I drove home not having any idea what to expect and I was completely mesmerized. The way it uses sound was like nothing I had experienced before and it really changed the way I listened to music in general. Everytime I listen to it it still evokes a sense of wonder which refreshes whatever I'm doing.

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Re: Lovred
« Reply #8 on: 16 Oct 2006, 17:58 »

I can't really say that there's any genre I love above all others. Every genre I like has some great stuff and some pretty bad stuff. Of course, you can say that about nearly every genre, but there are plenty of genres (electronic, rap/hiphop, etc.), that I just can't get into on the basic level, and there's so much music I haven't heard in genres I already like that I can't really spend the time getting into an entire new one.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #9 on: 16 Oct 2006, 18:28 »

To Ron Burgundy: NoMeansNo will get you melodic punk fix hella tastified.


Things that I love for reasons:

Alamaailman Vasarat: Utterly brilliant compositions and musicianship, a near unsurpassed sense for harmony, melody, and dischrod; plus they have the ability to create any dynamic or style of music (while remaining in their own personal and singular style) without the common cruches of guitars, electric basses, synthesizers, and they hardly use any production tricks at all besides making their songs come off totaly crystal clear. Plus, there is really not one bad thing about tracks that layer pump organ, bass trombone, cello, drums, and clarinet, each playing a different part, and the whole thing weaving together flawlessly.

Portishead (Dummy especially fits all these reasons): With the possible exception of a couple Fridge or Radiohead tracks, this is the best produced music in the world. Every tiny detail is pinned down exactly the way the band wants it. Every sample is spot-on, all the vocals and lyrics are just how they should be, matched inch by inch with everything else, and even though they're the front-most element of the music, they don't take up too much space, the beats are perfectly toned and timed, and elements of many musical forms blended together into a form all its own. Perfect goddam trip-hop.

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Nerdyness beyond belief, which somehow doesn't counteract the heavy beyond belief, which somehow doesn't counteract the genius beyond belief, which all serves to benefit the beauty and sheer majesty beyond beleif. Relentless, powerful, intelligent metal that has the perfect balance of feeling and technique, of natural past, cultured present, and distopian future, and of fun and seriousness. This music is simultaneously a wonderful culmination of a lot of things that have happened in the past and a totally new, unique, and authentic form. "The Donkey Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion" is a damn near perfect song.

The Sugarplastic: For anyone who thinks power-pop is too shallow, that indie is too snobbish, that guitar albums are too wanky, or that bad vocals ruin a band: The Sugarplastic proudly say "fuck you!" Ben Eshbach and Kiara Geller will tear apart everything you have ever thought about how a band nobody's heard of can't possibly be one of the greatest bands in the world. They can. And they are.

Eels: Really, E poses a challenge for every other band in the world. Basically, this is: Can you, using less than 15 simple chord progressions, linear melodic patterns, and basic rhythms, create one of the most incredible catalogues produced by any band ever, and wrap it all up with integrity, beauty, and big lessons about life that don't feel like bullshit? Because I can. I've been doing it for a while now. Are you other bands ready to start catching up?


It's fun having good reasons for things.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #10 on: 16 Oct 2006, 18:44 »

Trip-Hop - Now, it may be that it's because I haven't really explored the genre that much at all, but I love everything I've heard.  Portishead, Massive Attack, Tricky, Bjork, Emilie Simon, it's pretty great.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #11 on: 16 Oct 2006, 18:45 »

I'm pretty sure you just listed all the trip-hop ever made.

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Re: Lovred
« Reply #12 on: 16 Oct 2006, 18:51 »

Some trip-hop that is kickass not listesd includes:

Luke Vibert + B.J. Cole's "Stop The Panic" (or at least half the tracks): Excellent slide guitar and fat motherfuckin beats. EXCELLENT.
Nobody's "Pacific Drift": Like Portishead with a dude singer, Fender Rhodes instead of DJ's, and more cute.
Lark's "Mouth Of Me": South African trip-hop with an industrialish Mike Pattonish influence. like Massive Attack but more GIGANTIC.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #13 on: 16 Oct 2006, 19:26 »

I'm From Barcelona

Hurrah!  They're pretty much fantastic.  Was it the gabbly conversation that got you into them?

Yeah, the link Cory posted has one of their EPs, so I gave it a go. It's fun.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #14 on: 16 Oct 2006, 20:39 »

Gotta say above absolutely everything, I love Clutch to death.  They are beautiful (put on an amazing show, too, and hopefully I'll see them on New Year's).
Other than them, anything Les Claypool has ever done (including Blind Illusion), and anything Mike Patton has ever done (including Lovage).
Insert obligatory quote from Mike Patton soap opera incident here.
Throw in some random bands from every metal genre, and a couple indie rock bands, and I'm done.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #15 on: 16 Oct 2006, 20:44 »

Melvins > Tomahawk > Helmet > Kyuss > Clutch
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #16 on: 16 Oct 2006, 23:43 »

Naw, Melvins > Kyuss > Tomahawk > Helmet > Clutch.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #17 on: 17 Oct 2006, 00:39 »

Both of these are acceptable based on personal preference. The idea of the whole thing is that Clutch are a boring, distilled version of a lot of bands that kick a lot more ass than them. Jesus Lizard and Isis can form the fringes on the list.

{let Clutch = 'x'

Melvins > Tomahawk > Helmet > Kyuss > Clutch
or
Melvins > Kyuss > Tomahawk > Helmet > Clutch

where max 'y' value = Isis
where min 'y' value = The Jesus Lizard}
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #18 on: 17 Oct 2006, 06:46 »

Trip-Hop - Now, it may be that it's because I haven't really explored the genre that much at all, but I love everything I've heard.  Portishead, Massive Attack, Tricky, Bjork, Emilie Simon, it's pretty great.
Most trip-hop was instrumental, and I wouldn't include Bjork (Tricky connection notwithstanding, she had stronger connections to the UK dance scene) or Massive Attack (too nice, too club oriented... in my world they never released anything after 'Protection', btw ;)).  But I'm probably being a bit Tommydski (re: emo) about this.

I think some trip-hop essential releases are:

Skylab - #1 (one of the most underrated albums ever ever I reckon, that 90s ambient house thing taken away from the club and instead pilfering from hip-hop culture... all kinds of psychedelia and the defining trip-hop track, 'Seashell')

various artists - Headz (awesome statement of intent for the (at that time) great Mo'Wax label, prob only "names" are Nightmares On Wax, UNKLE (back when it involved the DFA guy), DJ Shadow)

UNKLE vs Major Force Orchestra - The Time Has Come (drugged out tribute to Sun-Ra... "the time has come to go out of your mind"... monster track that turns into a weird slo-mo 303 workout... and the 2x12" that got made into a CD has great remixes by Portishead and Plaid too... the version with Major Force Orchestra is one of the best pieces of music in the world, but you've already got than on the Headz compilation above)

Palmskin Productions - The Beast Remixes (essential single for just one track - the Autechre remix - but the Global Communications mixes are quite good)

bla bla.. that'll do...
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #19 on: 17 Oct 2006, 17:45 »

Both of these are acceptable based on personal preference. The idea of the whole thing is that Clutch are a boring, distilled version of a lot of bands that kick a lot more ass than them. Jesus Lizard and Isis can form the fringes on the list.

{let Clutch = 'x'

Melvins > Tomahawk > Helmet > Kyuss > Clutch
or
Melvins > Kyuss > Tomahawk > Helmet > Clutch

where max 'y' value = Isis
where min 'y' value = The Jesus Lizard}


The thing about Clutch is that in their early/mid years, yes, they were a decent/'boring' version of a few other bands.  But since they have gotten progressively more bluesy, and really, I find it very difficult to even classify their last album as metal.  They change a lot from album to album; for instance, Blast Tyrant was more in their older style (but was still great), while Jam Room, Slow Hole to China, and their most recent, Robot Hive/Exodus, are more like blues-infused hard rock than stoner metal.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #20 on: 17 Oct 2006, 18:18 »

Nuisance, thank you tons for that small list.  I may have to use it next time I raid my local record shop.  Anything else you can recommend would be excellent.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #21 on: 17 Oct 2006, 18:57 »

But since they have gotten progressively more bluesy, and really, I find it very difficult to even classify their last album as metal.

I would almost go as far as to call them "bluesy hard rock".
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #22 on: 17 Oct 2006, 20:32 »

I'm gonna go with pop punk.
Favourites include Screeching Weasel, The Queers, Jawbreaker, MTX, The Lillingtons and Teenage Bottlerocket.
Its all just so damn catchy and fun.

Also Black Metal.
Satyricon (bar the last few records), Mayhem, Absu, Bathory, Aborym,Emperor, Enslaved, Darkthrone and Burzum (the music, not the man behind it).
Early Cradle is not too shabby either.
So many different shades. Sometimes dark and eerie, sometimes raw and brutal.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #23 on: 18 Oct 2006, 06:49 »

Nuisance, thank you tons for that small list.  I may have to use it next time I raid my local record shop.  Anything else you can recommend would be excellent.
Man, I was an obsessive collector at the time, but I ditched a lot of it over time.  There's not huge amounts of other stuff that I can think of to suggest - maybe some early DJ Krush, or the first two '110 Below' compilations - and unfortunately all of this was probably small runs and would definitely be out-of-print now.  :oops:  Not trying to be wilfully obscure.  I had a little search on GEMM and the results were a bit distressing... $150 for the 'Headz' comp??  Dumb.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #24 on: 18 Oct 2006, 09:47 »

I'm gonna need to think about this one, guys. Leanin' towards "pop/rock" right now.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #25 on: 18 Oct 2006, 17:00 »

Music that sounds like it was formed from the tears of agonised children.

And pop. But anguished pop.

Happiness has no place in my music colection..
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #26 on: 18 Oct 2006, 18:06 »

The Mountain Goats - No Children

This is a song I can listen to ad nausem.

It is full of spite and humour, the perfect antithesis to all of the sugary love crap used to perpetuate unrealistic expectations of love.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #27 on: 19 Oct 2006, 05:06 »

I'm gonna go with pop punk.
Favourites include Screeching Weasel, The Queers, Jawbreaker, MTX, The Lillingtons and Teenage Bottlerocket.
Its all just so damn catchy and fun.

Jawbreaker's a bit dark and moody to be considered pop-punk, I think.  Their approach is also pretty different from those other bands you've listed.  I usually refer to them as "melodic punk rock", alongside Leatherface, Hot Water Music, The Broadways, Gunmoll, old-school Alkaline Trio, et al.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #28 on: 19 Oct 2006, 05:49 »

I'm gonna go with pop punk.
Favourites include Screeching Weasel, The Queers, Jawbreaker, MTX, The Lillingtons and Teenage Bottlerocket.
Its all just so damn catchy and fun.

Jawbreaker's a bit dark and moody to be considered pop-punk, I think.? Their approach is also pretty different from those other bands you've listed.? I usually refer to them as "melodic punk rock", alongside Leatherface, Hot Water Music, The Broadways, Gunmoll, old-school Alkaline Trio, et al.

i guess, except for songs like want, boxcar, bad scene everyone's fault. i just don't like the melodic term coz it just makes me think of meat head shit like pennywise....ewwwww
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #29 on: 19 Oct 2006, 07:18 »

The Mountain Goats - No Children

This is a song I can listen to ad nausem.

It is full of spite and humour, the perfect antithesis to all of the sugary love crap used to perpetuate unrealistic expectations of love.

Hmm... if I put on No Children i'd have to stop listening to Palmcorder Yanja, and the bit where he sings 'Laugh lines on our faces/scale maps of the ocean floor' is one of the best moments in music
Everything by the Hold Steady. Love it so much
early Springsteen. Born to Run and specifically Thunder Road

power-pop. LOVE power-pop. New Pornographers, Posies, Fountains of Wayne, Hummingbirds.. any ohter suggestions
Neutral MIlk Hotel. love them so much
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #30 on: 19 Oct 2006, 07:23 »

Breaks. Good, solid, funky fucking broken beats.

Why? Because it's not complicated, it's not particularly intellectual, it just makes me want to dance.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #31 on: 19 Oct 2006, 17:47 »

i guess, except for songs like want, boxcar, bad scene everyone's fault. i just don't like the melodic term coz it just makes me think of meat head shit like pennywise....ewwwww

Well, to be fair, the term "pop-punk" conjures images of Blink-182 and Fall Out Boy in most people's heads.  You have to take the good with the bad, I suppose.
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« Reply #32 on: 19 Oct 2006, 20:37 »

i guess, except for songs like want, boxcar, bad scene everyone's fault. i just don't like the melodic term coz it just makes me think of meat head shit like pennywise....ewwwww

Well, to be fair, the term "pop-punk" conjures images of Blink-182 and Fall Out Boy in most people's heads.  You have to take the good with the bad, I suppose.

I saw the Buzzcocks. Before the show they played stuff like Blink and Green Day over the PA. I love the idea of pop-punk, and the old stuff is good... but even in its current form its like pure rock. Dumb, fun stuff for kids.
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« Reply #33 on: 22 Oct 2006, 06:03 »

i guess, except for songs like want, boxcar, bad scene everyone's fault. i just don't like the melodic term coz it just makes me think of meat head shit like pennywise....ewwwww

Well, to be fair, the term "pop-punk" conjures images of Blink-182 and Fall Out Boy in most people's heads.? You have to take the good with the bad, I suppose.

yeah it totally sucks about what is considered pop punk. you say it and then people say simple plan.....and then you hit said person for being stupid.
theres more recent pop punk like dillinger 4, unlovables, chixdiggit, lillingtons,etc and then theres mtv crap rock like blink, simple plan, good charlotte.
when will people learn????????
*burns little brother's good charlotte cd and then puts on screeching weasel way too loud........
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #34 on: 22 Oct 2006, 06:57 »

I actually really like a load of the commercially defined pop-punk stuff (fall out boy, panic! et al),

I think it's because I spend so much time with scenester types that after spending an hour discussing the merits of The Horrors' haircuts or the fact that no-one likes Test Icicles anymore, my brain gives up and goes 'must listen to the one thing that will offend the musos' and is drawn like a radar to the Panic album or something equally sneered upon.

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Re: Lovred
« Reply #35 on: 22 Oct 2006, 07:32 »

I actually really like a load of the commercially defined pop-punk stuff (fall out boy, panic! et al),

I think it's because I spend so much time with scenester types that after spending an hour discussing the merits of The Horrors' haircuts or the fact that no-one likes Test Icicles anymore, my brain gives up and goes 'must listen to the one thing that will offend the musos' and is drawn like a radar to the Panic album or something equally sneered upon.



i tend to think that most stuff that is commercially described as pop punk is really more pop rock.
'i write tragedies not love songs' or whatever its called is a really good song. i've never heard any fall out boy stuff though so i can't really comment.
this is sort of along the lines of the debate you could have on when does metalcore become nu-metal?
or what genre is it when powerviolence becomes a little more structured-is it then death metal?
this stupid labelling shit really ends up dumbing down the way we describe music, lumping a bunch of bands in a bunch of genres just makes it difficult when you do have bands on the fringe like jawbreaker. are they emo? because thats what dear you sounded like, but then all their other albums sounded different. so they could be pop punk and melodic punk rock too!
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #36 on: 22 Oct 2006, 08:43 »

 I Write Sins Not Tragedies

 And your right.. it is a pretty good song.
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #37 on: 23 Oct 2006, 19:07 »

I got alot of shit for mentioning that I liked the new My Chemical Romance song on my MySpace.
For cripes sake... i'm 21. Alot of my friends are younger. Can you really NOT rememer what it felt like to be an agnsty teen? Sometimes you need stuff like that.
Panic! at the Disco is fun too

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Re: Lovred
« Reply #38 on: 23 Oct 2006, 19:57 »

no-one likes Test Icicles anymore
Dammit, I like Test Icicles, you mean I have to stop?
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« Reply #39 on: 24 Oct 2006, 02:13 »

^ Technically, but you can find ways around it e.g 'Oh, I was listening to the Klaxons' reworking of (insert random tune) by Test Icicles, they've really moved it forward and paved the way for bands like SHITDISCO to make ironic glowsticks cool again...'
Or find the bassist's new band, that kind of thing...I spend too much time with people who REALLY THINK LIKE THIS and it makes me die a little inside...



Also, on the panic!/MCR/fob front - I get so much stick for liking that kind of thing that it only makes me more belligerant in my appreciation of it. It's enjoying music, not compiling a musical CV for prospective musos to judge whether you're worth knowing or not...
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #40 on: 24 Oct 2006, 02:47 »

Naw, Melvins > Kyuss > Tomahawk > Helmet > Clutch.

Kyuss > Melvins > Helmet > Clutch > Tomahawk
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Re: Lovred
« Reply #41 on: 24 Oct 2006, 13:05 »

Cernunnos should totally being giving props to me, his avatar is still linked from my photobucket account.....

Also, i don't really know lots of specific genres (there are entirely too many names for music these days), but i'm a big fan of anything that involves simply a person and a piano, such as ben folds, regina spektor, some fiona apple, etc etc.
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