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The Marvel Civil War
weenus:
Preview pic from IGN.
Blue Kitty:
I do believe it is going to be called Endangered Species and I think it starts with X-men #200
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 28 May 2007, 16:53 ---Identities weren't public, but they were held accountable for their actions. That's what the SRA and Initiative are about, accountability and having legitimately trained heroes as opposed to uncontrollable vigilantes.
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Okay but government involvement in superheroism is a postively terrible idea. Government oversight and restriction winds up exacerbating the events of The Incredibles, and in Watchmen the results of government-aligned superheroes are positively terrifying.
The entire idea of superheroes are that they operate outside of governmental moral values. Now they're operating within those boundaries. They're accountable for what and to whom? At the outset they'd be accountable, respectively, to the public and for their actions but surely this would not remain static - at least, not if Marvel wants the idea to even be remotely convincing in a few years.
Don't get me started on how much the idea of a "legitimately trained hero" pretty much ruins a good chunk of the everyman appeal of many a superhero.
0bsessions:
Think of it this way: the SRA is the best possible way of changing the status quo without having to change the status quo.
You're still going to have your "everyman" vigilantes, and technically that was always illegal. The stakes have been upped and new storyline possibilities have been added now, though. Spider-Man's technical status quo has only changed in the unmasking. In essence, they reverted a good part of his status. I find his life's been way too cushy for way too long. I like having him back to being shot at regularly by the cops, adds a different dimension.
Pretty much everyone else maintained their status quos, as well. The Avengers have been a government funded and run team for decades, the Fantastic Four have been public since around their debut and the X-Men are off doing their own thing as per usual. While everything's changed, nothing's changed. But now we've got an underground team of Avengers that is on the run from the government as far as fighting the bad guys, Tony Stark in charge of SHIELD has been one of the more fascinating ideas in a long while and the death of Captain America has been well played on all sides.
Where DC absolutely fucked themselves with Infinite Crisis, Marvel accomplished their goal with Civil War. Both were set out with taking the company in a new direction. IC did that, but it did a good job of alienating many a fan by making a damn near unrecognizable product (I'd been sucked into DC after years of being a Marvel zombie, but couldn't be bothered after the underwhelming Infinite Crisis and One Year Later fallout). I've heard a lot of people who found that Civil War proper ended with a thud, but the Initiative's potential and payoff has been great. Everything's lined up in a way where the reader feels a new experience without it being a complete 180 from where it was.
Comics are, first and foremost, a business and Marvel really knocked one out of the park business-wise with Civil War. Storywise is up for debate, though I greatly enjoyed it.
Gimme a Dollar:
I say no! Superheroes in comics really just do what the goverment refuses to do. "Oh no, we won't save the world from some terrorist/cool evil guy" "Here comes [superhero or mutant name here] to save the day."
They then are pretty much hated by the government for not being lazy! Plus there's no way in hell the Runnaways could be signed up. They're kids for [insert religious figure here]'s sake!
Edit:
Plus there's the part where the government would just plain ruin it for the people. "I'm gonna go fight that guy before he kills x amount of people." "Nah, it's just too risky, go back to bed." "GOD DAMN IT!"
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