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The Marvel Civil War
Blue Kitty:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 31 May 2007, 05:57 ---Where DC absolutely fucked themselves with Infinite Crisis, Marvel accomplished their goal with Civil War
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I don't really know about that. I felt that Infinite Crisis was far superior to Civl War in every way, and I have been a long time Marvel fan harking back to when I first picked up my dad's old Lee and Ditko comic books, much to his dismay of trying to keep them in mint condition.
Where as Marvel, as is usual with Marvel, was trying to reinvent themselves, I felt that DC was staying exactly the same. Instead of reinventing themselves they pulled the big three, who had grown apart over the course of the year do to their various actions, ie Batman with his Brother Eye and Wonder Woman's murder of Maxwell Lord, back together to face a threat on a universal scale, and rallying other heroes to join them. The only thing that I found wrong with it was that they seemed to want to bring back the multiverse that they got rid of in Crisis on Infinite Earths, though has been around for a long time any way.
I can honestly say that I did enjoy the ending of Civil War with the death of Captain America, a character that has always seemed so invincible even though they constantly point out he is just a regular guy, but the story of militarizing super heroes felt rushed and incomplete, and even though I did enjoy the ending I think that the only reason they did it is so that they could draw attention back to themselves and away from the fact that the whole thing was poorly done.
Johnny C:
I dunno, I just feel that thematically it was a wasted opportunity, you know? The theme doesn't jive well with me.
Comics may be first and foremost a business but that business is often best conducted under the guise of intelligent and legitimate artistic pursuit. If you make a good comic, it'll sell. That, rather than reinvention, should be a company's primary concern.
ElRodente:
i think mostly, reinvention is the major force behind creating new and most of all interesting comics, tony stark may come out of this looking like a dick, but he's an interesting dick, a well written dick.
You also have to remember that the new status quo is not government controlled superheroes, it's registered yes, but what stark did was take the control out of the hands of the government, and put it into the hands of someone he could trust and knew cared about the other heroes, himself.
some writers have been pretty shitty with stark thouh
overall, i liked civil war, even if some of the minor stories were shit (frontline, i'm looking at you) and thematically, it was a decent progression in the marvel universe, with many many storylines to pursue.
that said, 52 was awesome too (though countdown is a bit mishmash now)
0bsessions:
Actually, it's looking like there might be a more in-depth method to Stark's actions. Aside from World War Hulk (Which had a phenomenal first issue that would please any of the Iron Man haters out there), the latest issue of New Avengers ended with Elektra being stabbed to death and being revealed to be a Skrull. It's unclear when she was replaced or where the real Elektra is, but it's apparently something Bendis has been sowing the seeds for for almost three years (I looked back and actually found a lot of the hints, so I'm inclined to believe he's not full of shit). He's saying that he's not going to use this to make it like Civil War was manipulated into being (I.E. Stark is not a Skrull. The Skrulls might have pushed a vague bit, but it was a matter of the humans fucking themselves in the midst of an infiltration).
The potential of all this excites me.
Blue Kitty:
DUDE, YOU SHOULD PUT A SPOILER ALERT!!!
I think with Stark's actions, as are the New Avengers being lead by Cage, is that he is still trying to find out the big mystery that was going on in the pages of New Avengers before the whole Civil War happened, doing methodically and by the books where as Cage and the Avengers are out busting heads and taking names
still, Marvel was right when they said that the last page would be one of the biggest surprises of 2007. hell, even I did not see it coming
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