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James Joyce: What say you??

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ScrambledGregs:
Without reading your explanation for that, though, I just think "a picture of a statue of Jesus/a sculpture of Jesus with some weird yellow effects on it?? Boring."

For what it's worth, I know nothing about art, aside from flipping through collections in my college's library and thinking to myself "that's cool" or "that's shit."

Johnny C:
I quite like modern art. To tell the truth, I find a lot of art pre-19th century to be rather dull, but maybe that's because I find a lot of everything made pre-19th century to be rather dull. The problem with neo-classicism and all its related forms is that it lent itself to this attitude that because you were portraying something as realistically as possible then you didn't need to have anything important to say. As long as it looked nice, that was the point. Pisschrist looks nice, but at the same time speaks to something deeper than just humanity's sense of aesthetics. Part of modern art's "thing" is the intent of the artist. I guess what I'm saying is don't knock modern art just because you don't like it. Subjectivity does not equal worth. Some modern art is crap but a lot of it is quite well-made.

Also, Khar, just as an aside, I'd argue that the piece is more about the elevation of the crucifixion and Christ's life from the brutal, dirty and human to this untouchable, unreachable thing, and that the overarching question is, "Is that what Jesus' message deserved?"

Oh, and Dubliners is okay but the rest of Joyce's ouvre is nigh-unreadable. I would say that Ulysses is probably the most famous book nobody's ever read.

ScrambledGregs:
Really?? I don't know what you mean with Ulysses. I thought it was fairly readable and almost enjoyable. I think the most famous book nobody's ever read is the Bible.

supersheep:
I've read more of the Bible than of Ulysses. Ulysses is actually LESS readable than the Bible...

Manta Ray:
you just need to get used to his style. i think it's fairly easy to read once you get past Stephen's chapters at the start. Once Leopold becomes the main character it's quite easy to read because he's not as learned as Stephen, and there's some really good bits in the book where Joyce highlights this. There's a bit in the church where Joyce says, the priest says something in latin. Which i think is really cool because if it had been Stephen's thoughts he probably would have said the latin, because the first couple of chapters are full of latin, french, german and irish phrases.

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