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Hat:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 19 Dec 2006, 22:45 ---It seems kind of cheating to count the Menagerie and the Cage, as almost all the footage in The Cage gets re-used in The Menagerie.
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Yeah I know, I just wanted to make up for the fact that I do not know the differences between Ship classes.
Also as much as I don't like what I've seen of Voyager, I really like the Doctor Character. It seems like my favorite character in all the series is the Doctor, except for TNG. Not sure why that is. Bones has always been my long time favorite just because he's the only one that would ever bother to argue with Spock about anything.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: Hat on 20 Dec 2006, 10:10 ---Also as much as I don't like what I've seen of Voyager, I really like the Doctor Character. It seems like my favorite character in all the series is the Doctor, except for TNG. Not sure why that is. Bones has always been my long time favorite just because he's the only one that would ever bother to argue with Spock about anything.
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Beverly Crusher isn't such an interesting character, and I'm pretty sure she gets a lot less screen time than particularly Bones or the EMH. Voyager and TOS revolve around dangerous away missions. Even though the EMH can't leave the ship (or even the medical bay, as far as I remember) he is normally to be found patching someone up in pretty much every episode of Voyager. And in TOS, Bones is pretty much joint second in command, as far as seniority goes. He has a major part in every episode I can think of, he has catchphrases (actually, so does the EMH: "Please state the nature of your medical emergency"), the whole shebang. There are whole episodes of TNG where Crusher doesn't even get screen time (She has a few episodes devoted to her of course, but hey, so does Reginald Barclay). There seemed, indeed, to be more focus on her son.
I mean, to be honest, I had to think for a good ten seconds before I could remember her full name. Also, come to think of it, she doesn't even last the whole series. She goes off to some starfleet hq position and gets replaced by Dr. Pulaski.
Hat:
Actually theres at least one episode I can recall that doesn't have Bones in it, but that was a really weird episode. It was the one with the dude who got all the God-like powers. I can't remember a whole lot about it except that you shouldn't watch it on acid, and the guy made a grave for kirk with the name as "James H. Kirk".
Hahahah oh man I just remembered a deadpool comic where Deadpool is picking on some Star Trek geek during a job and starts mouthing off about Deforest Kelly, and then burns him to a stump declaring "Damnit, I'm a Doctor, not a Zippo Lighter!!"
Also, has anyone noticed that whenever something went weird in TOS, it always involved Sulu turning into a pirate, or a cowboy or something?
KharBevNor:
Hmn, yes, he does that a lot. Then again, that sort of shit happens quite a lot to other people as well.
And, yes, of course, you're talking about the second pilot, the first actual Star Trek episode aired. 'Where No Man Has Gone Before', it is called I believe. The one where they go to the edge of the galaxy yeah? As far as I'm aware I think they over-packed it a bit with effects and action to try and address the criticisms that had been levelled at The Cage. As far as I remember, Kirk, Spock and possibly Scotty are pretty much the only regular characters in it (or at least, the only ones we tend to think of as regular characters, ie, people who made it to the movies).
To be honest, if I wasn't pretty sure Gene Roddenberry was a quite tight-laced fellow (I've always imagine him as a sort of sci-fi writer equivalent of Mr. Rogers) I would imagine that quite a lot of the original Star Trek might have been written with the aid of psychedelic drugs. Of course, Roddenberry didn't write most of the episodes, and I have no idea about the artists, guest directors etc. so who knows. Though to be fair to it, you've got to remember that the original Star Trek was written in an entirely different sci-fi tradition to what we have today, a tradition which, in fact, Star Trek probably helped shift quite a bit. There was always more of a legacy in Star Trek to things like Flash Gordon and Amazing Tales magazine than 'serious' sci-fi. One of the reasons that TNG is so much less dated, to our eyes, is that it was operating in much more the same culture: In the 20 years since ToS we'd been exposed to things like Alien, Blade Runner and The Neuromancer. We knew where computers were going, and we knew that we almost certainly would not be wearing miniskirts and silver jumpsuits in the future.
Mores the pity.
Orbert:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 21 Dec 2006, 02:22 ---
--- Quote from: Hat on 20 Dec 2006, 10:10 ---Also as much as I don't like what I've seen of Voyager, I really like the Doctor Character. It seems like my favorite character in all the series is the Doctor, except for TNG. Not sure why that is. Bones has always been my long time favorite just because he's the only one that would ever bother to argue with Spock about anything.
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Beverly Crusher isn't such an interesting character, and I'm pretty sure she gets a lot less screen time than particularly Bones or the EMH. Voyager and TOS revolve around dangerous away missions. Even though the EMH can't leave the ship (or even the medical bay, as far as I remember) he is normally to be found patching someone up in pretty much every episode of Voyager. And in TOS, Bones is pretty much joint second in command, as far as seniority goes. He has a major part in every episode I can think of, he has catchphrases (actually, so does the EMH: "Please state the nature of your medical emergency"), the whole shebang. There are whole episodes of TNG where Crusher doesn't even get screen time (She has a few episodes devoted to her of course, but hey, so does Reginald Barclay). There seemed, indeed, to be more focus on her son.
I mean, to be honest, I had to think for a good ten seconds before I could remember her full name. Also, come to think of it, she doesn't even last the whole series. She goes off to some starfleet hq position and gets replaced by Dr. Pulaski.
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Beverly Crusher took a position with StarFleet Medical for one season and was replaced by Dr. Pulaski, but she came back for the remainder of the series, and they actually gave her some reasonably interesting things to do. Also, she and Capt. Picard are old friends, as her late husband and Picard were crewmates, and they tried to play up the tension between them. The series finale, which takes place several years in the future, mentions "Captain Picard" but it turns out to be none other than the former Beverly Crusher, implying that they do get married at some point.
In the early seasons, there was definitely more of a focus on Wesley the Wonder Boy, but then he became a transcendental being and went galaxy-hopping with The Traveler, and I don't think we ever see him again. Beverly is devastated, of course, and Picard comes to her quarters late one night with a bottle of wine and a special mix CD, and... well you get the idea.
Okay, I may have made that last part up. But she does eventually become Beverly Picard.
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