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bujiatang:
ere I am JH

mqarcus:

--- Quote from: TheBoredOne on 28 Dec 2006, 06:46 ---He was a philosopher

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Nietzsche, Kant and Platon were philosophers. Hubbard was a nut.


--- Quote from: TheBoredOne on 28 Dec 2006, 06:46 ---By this quote I mean to show you that he emphasized taking what *anyone* says with a grain of salt, until you can prove for yourself that it works, and that it's true.

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That's called "not trusting anyone" and is, to me, a part of a thing called "common sense".



--- Quote from: TheBoredOne on 28 Dec 2006, 06:46 ---"If it's true for you, it's true. And if it's not true for you, it still isn't true. Not even if Ron told you, is it true. It's just not true, that's all."

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Well, that's just being an idiot. "If someone, or something, gives me evidence that it in fact is true, then it's still not true"

KharBevNor:
TheBoredOne: I ask you this. How much money have you and your family expended?

The basic philosophy seems okay, though I can't help but notice based on that more bare-bones explanation it's completely unoriginal. But I still hear way too much about xenu, extortion and I don't think you can empirically argue that, for an organisation you say champions enlightenment and free well, the Church of Scientology has sued a HELL of a lot of people.

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mqarcus:
He looks extremely greedy.

TheBoredOne: You sound just like me about a year ago. You don't care for others, "they don't now", right? "They're just idiots, they don't feel the light, they don't know, but I know! I have been enlightened, it's a great thing, if they just felt it... I have to enlight them!" But, you know, you're not going to make it.

TheBoredOne:
I tried :D!
I've read a lot of his writings, and he too was a philosopher.
He says the only new thing in Scientology is how it's applied. The information has been around, even if it was lost, for thousands of years. It's just been arranged in a practical way, and is workable and can be applied.

And yeah, we do sue a hell of a lot of people. We sue them for copyright infringement because we don't want our material being twisted. We are relatively new (56 years or so?) and are now viewed by most (if not all) major countries as a bona fide religion. That took some doing. But we did it.
I was a kid at the time so I wasn't aware of most of it.
I don't know everything else we sue for, and I don't know all of the church's court battles, but I've never heard of one we've lost.
We're not the kind of people to take kicks while laying down. We're an organization of people who do something about it.

One thing I've come to notice is that we're just taking our heat from the public, just like everyone else has had to. For anyone or any organiztion to be respected, I guess they have to endure a couple decades or a hundred years of ridicule, until eventually people realize we're not going anywhere. I've come to terms with this.

I don't listen to the rumors of Scientology.. because what I know about it, works. I can apply it. This makes it true for me. I enjoy reading philosophical writings, and LRH's are especially enjoyable.
The only money we've put into Scientology are for the books, and all books cost money.
I suppose I've spent $60 in the last 2 years on courses.

People work at Scientology organizations. It's their career. They sell books to people, they sell courses.. they do admin, they do promotions, they give counseling, they teach courses, they give detoxes.. I read somewhere that for everything you'd ever have to buy in Scientology costs somewhere around an average college education. But that's for your entire life.

The money the church makes goes to expanding the church, and it goes to all the human rights, education, reform, and rehab centers it funds, not to mention the Volunteer Ministers who are front and center where ever there's people in need.
Personal friends of mine in the VM's gave blood for 9/11, they also drove in a van to FL during the hurricanes and floods. If you ask me, as far as a religion goes, that's a pretty useful thing to do with money.

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