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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #50 on: 31 Dec 2006, 04:09 »

Yeah I generally change my guage in that situation.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #51 on: 31 Dec 2006, 07:04 »

Yeah, if I'd stuck with the band I would have.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #52 on: 31 Dec 2006, 07:22 »

On a similar tack, I've just recently begun playing bass, and the majority of the songs I'm learning are in Drop D, and some in Drop C. I noticed that when I play these songs I get a lot of buzz, mostly when I'm picking hard, or when I do fast left-hand stuff. I put most of this down to me not being very good yet, but could it also be alleviated by heavier gauge strings?
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #53 on: 31 Dec 2006, 08:48 »

You might want to go for a heavier guage. It depends on what you mean by "buzz." Generally notes get buzzy when the there's too much slack in the string, thus, thicker string, less slack for deeper pitch. Anyways, if you're not fretting the notes close enough to the frets, then that could cause a different kind of buzz.

Also, remember playing fast is not necessarily the same thing as playing hard. Loosen up on your picking hand pressure but try to play just as fast.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #54 on: 31 Dec 2006, 08:58 »

Man I wish i could play the guitar properly I actually left both my guitars in bournemoth so I can't even practice I can feel my fingers getting softr.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #55 on: 31 Dec 2006, 09:01 »

Yeah, it's just a matter of when I'm playing constant 8ths or 16ths or something, every so often I just tend to hit the string a bit too hard, or with too much of my finger, and it causes a bit of buzz. I think the only reason it's made worse when I'm doing quick stuff with my left hand is because I'm not focusing on my right-hand technique as much.

I figured it probably ad at least something to do with needing heavier strings because the buzz is less when I play in Drop D as opposed to C, and better again in Standard.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #56 on: 31 Dec 2006, 09:08 »

Man I wish i could play the guitar properly I actually left both my guitars in bournemoth so I can't even practice I can feel my fingers getting softr.

You know, I've been playing for a good two and a half years now and my fingers are still soft. My fingers just dont get rough, I've never had a problem.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #57 on: 31 Dec 2006, 09:27 »

Yeah, but I don't practice enough and im a tone deaf mathematical retard so i just cant understand theory which means i'll never be as good as the things that made me want to pick up the guitar i mean i wont ever be able to imitate them it makes me truly sad
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #58 on: 31 Dec 2006, 09:31 »

God, don't depress me, I'm basicly tone deaf too. But I still think you could atleast be a rythum guitarist, I've found I enjoy that quite a bit. And it's fun to work on your speed to where yo ucan do speed metal riffs.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #59 on: 31 Dec 2006, 09:33 »

Yeah, but I don't practice enough and im a tone deaf mathematical retard so i just cant understand theory which means i'll never be as good as the things that made me want to pick up the guitar i mean i wont ever be able to imitate them it makes me truly sad

No that's bullshit, see. I used to think that but when I just practised the fuck out of my guitar I picked that stuff up eventually.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #60 on: 31 Dec 2006, 09:33 »

Fuck that I will not have lived a full life if I die without having once playued the solo from angelclaw, and i know i will never do it, so hurgh.

Also, yeah, i actually have maths problems theory makes me want to kill things
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #61 on: 31 Dec 2006, 10:13 »

I can't even listen to theory without wanting to run, you're not alone. XP
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #62 on: 31 Dec 2006, 10:24 »

um so relating it back to the subject at hand

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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #63 on: 31 Dec 2006, 10:59 »

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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #64 on: 31 Dec 2006, 11:28 »

Fuck that I will not have lived a full life if I die without having once playued the solo from angelclaw, and i know i will never do it, so hurgh.

Also, yeah, i actually have maths problems theory makes me want to kill things

I'd have played the solo from The Immortal instead.   I thought that one was way cooler. 
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #65 on: 31 Dec 2006, 12:55 »

The solo from Angelclaw is what made me decide that I had to try and learn the guitar, because of the sheer uplifting emotional power of it...you know which one I mean, 3:00 to 3:30 roughly. It's a soaring, beautiful thing. The solo from The Immortal is okay, but imo it doesn't have that.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #66 on: 31 Dec 2006, 12:58 »

I think we can all just agree that Burning Bridges is a really really good album.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #67 on: 03 Jan 2007, 02:51 »

You guys can hear some of my old, old material, sans drums, here. It's a poor representation, but I am curious what you hipsters think. It's going to be my band's page, but right now, it's just a really bad substitute. All the songs on there aren't even band recordings. I just recorded everything myself track by track with Cubase and a cheap ass effects processor. Still, if you're bored, I am an attention whore.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #68 on: 03 Jan 2007, 03:16 »

No, this thread is now about Arch Enemy.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #69 on: 03 Jan 2007, 03:30 »

But I don't like them that much. Can it be about Dark Tranquility instead?
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #70 on: 03 Jan 2007, 03:37 »

No.

I might consider allowing discussion of At the Gates later. But right now, Arch Enemy.
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« Reply #71 on: 03 Jan 2007, 04:30 »

No. Iced Earth. Let's talk about Night Of The Stormrider. That version of Angel's Holocaust is WAY better than the other one.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #72 on: 03 Jan 2007, 07:09 »

Iced Earth easily have the best rhythm guitarist in all of metal IMHO, who is also a godly musician all-round. Therefore, they remain one of my favourite Metal bands and my third favourite Power Metal band.
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« Reply #73 on: 03 Jan 2007, 07:14 »

I would call them melodic thrash before I would besmirch them with the power metal moniker. But really it's probably a little from column A, a little from column B. They're a bit heavy for power metal, and the solos aren't ultra long and drawn out. Tastefully placed, typically. Maybe not on The Glorious Burden. Bleh on that one. But the lyrical style and the melodic vocals are power metal to a T.

...Dark Saga is the best...
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« Reply #74 on: 03 Jan 2007, 07:25 »

...Dark Saga is the best...

Dude, are you kidding? That's the worst Iced Earth album. The best Iced Earth material is all from Something Wicked This Way Comes, Horror Show, and Night of the Stormrider.

Although Days of Purgatory wins just for the version of Stormrider with Barlow on vocals. Awesome.
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« Reply #75 on: 03 Jan 2007, 07:33 »

Barlow was my favorite vocalist for Iced Earth, hands down. And I LOVE Dark Saga most, probably because of the female vocals. A Question Of Heaven is such a magnificent song. Come on. Worst? A Glorious Burden is definitely the worst. A Civil War concept album sounds like a good idea to some people... hell I even thought it was good idea before I heard it. But damn Jon Schaffer. He should have quit... fucker... he's a republican too...

Ranked:

1. The Dark Saga
2. Night of the Stormrider
3. Burnt Offerings
4. Something Wicked This Way Comes
5. Horror Show
6. The Glorious Burden
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« Reply #76 on: 03 Jan 2007, 09:20 »


Dude, are you kidding? That's the worst Iced Earth album. The best Iced Earth material is all from Something Wicked This Way Comes, Horror Show, and Night of the Stormrider.

Although Days of Purgatory wins just for the version of Stormrider with Barlow on vocals. Awesome.

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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #77 on: 03 Jan 2007, 12:06 »

Damien is just kick. Ass. That's probably my favorite song off that CD, it's just.... Er, I already said that...

And I'm thinking Dark Saga is their best. I don't own it yet, but I've heard several songs. "The Hunter" sold me on that CD.
For the record, I have Horror Show, Something Wicked This Way Comes, Days of Purgatory, Night of the Storm Rider, and Glorious Burden. I so need to complete my collection.
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« Reply #78 on: 03 Jan 2007, 14:06 »

Granted, "The Hunter" reeks of awesome as well, but Damien's recovery from the monologue is nothing less than thrilling.
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« Reply #79 on: 03 Jan 2007, 16:41 »



Ranked:

1. The Dark Saga
2. Night of the Stormrider
3. Burnt Offerings
4. Something Wicked This Way Comes
5. Horror Show
6. The Glorious Burden


Thats eeriely similar to how I would rank them but swap around 3 and 1 and stick in the self titled above TGB... Pure Evil was the song that hooked me on Iced Earth.

as for the other bands mentioned.

Arch Enemy
1. Black Earth
2. Wages of Sin
3. Burning Bridges

haven't really heard enough of their other albums.

Dark Tranquility

1. Sky Dancer
2. Projector
3. The Gallery
4. Damage Done
5. The Minds I

have heard very little of  the rest of there stuff

At The Gates

1. With Fear I Kiss The Burning Darkness
2. The Red in The Sky Is Ours
3. Terminal Spirit Disease
4. Gardens of Grief
5. Slaughter of the Soul
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #80 on: 03 Jan 2007, 16:50 »

Dude I am in complete agreement with you on all those except switch one and two for Arch Enemy.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #81 on: 03 Jan 2007, 21:24 »

drop D tuning? bah, humbug! i use drop A# tuning.
well,... to be honest,... it doesn't work for most kinds of music, but i like it.
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« Reply #82 on: 03 Jan 2007, 22:07 »

I wrote two new songs (actually, just enough bass parts for two new songs) last night, one was in standard and one was in drop-d. It's wierd because we have this thread, and I don't usually write in drop-d at all.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #83 on: 03 Jan 2007, 23:32 »

It's 3 and a half steps down. That's way too low!
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #84 on: 04 Jan 2007, 03:36 »

drop D tuning? bah, humbug! i use drop A# tuning.
well,... to be honest,... it doesn't work for most kinds of music, but i like it.
that's 3 steps down, right? also; how the hell do you use that on a Tele?

Thicker strings. You just end up not being able to hit any high notes. EVER.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #85 on: 04 Jan 2007, 06:42 »

it's 3 steps down (2 for the otehr strings, of course). i use regular strings for that, it sounds pretty fucked up but that's the sound i need. we play some kind of drone/doom-influenced music that requires that kind of sound.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #86 on: 04 Jan 2007, 22:24 »

well yeah, but i never knew teles could take .13s.

Why wouldn't they?
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« Reply #87 on: 04 Jan 2007, 22:53 »

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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #88 on: 05 Jan 2007, 03:52 »

Fun fact, you can fake a deep A by doing an A chord in standard and hitting the top string along with it.
It can sound pretty convincing if you do it right.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #89 on: 05 Jan 2007, 04:31 »

Always on the outside, always looking in.
I was in this drop-D metal band we called Requiem.

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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #90 on: 05 Jan 2007, 09:02 »

That wasn't a response to your post.
I didn't read your post until just now.

I think that Helmet album is a good album.
We were making the same point surely? That it is not the sole premise of crap nu-metal as was suggested.
don't worry brotha i got what you meant. fucking helmet is the shit.


i know this particular post is a few days old. oh well, that's just how it goes i guess.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #91 on: 05 Jan 2007, 22:12 »

Fun fact, you can fake a deep A by doing an A chord in standard and hitting the top string along with it.
It can sound pretty convincing if you do it right.

Do you mean the bottom string? The low E?
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #92 on: 06 Jan 2007, 00:07 »

Fun fact, you can fake a deep A by doing an A chord in standard and hitting the top string along with it.
It can sound pretty convincing if you do it right.

Do you mean the bottom string? The low E?

Ah, yeah, sorry about that. Typo.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #93 on: 07 Jan 2007, 23:59 »

I am not double-posting, nooooo....

Anybody here know some good songs or bands that use A tuning, but sing melodicly? As in, don't scream or don't always scream?
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #94 on: 08 Jan 2007, 10:26 »

Sleater-Kinney tune their guitars pretty damn low on The Woods. Maybe not A tuning but still very low. From when I was trying to piece together some of the album's songs I remember looking at chord sheets, looking at my strings and cussing, in that order.
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« Reply #95 on: 08 Jan 2007, 11:29 »

They've used baritones in studio, which are usually tuned to B. So A isn't entirely out of the question.
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #96 on: 08 Jan 2007, 20:28 »

I am not double-posting, nooooo....

Anybody here know some good songs or bands that use A tuning, but sing melodicly? As in, don't scream or don't always scream?

Korn, Linkin Park...

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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #97 on: 08 Jan 2007, 21:42 »

Arch Enemy
1. Black Earth
2. Wages of Sin
3. Burning Bridges

This is heresy but I enjoy Arch Enemy with Angela more than with Johan. Some of the best songs are on albums with Johan, but his vocals were uninspired. I honestly believe Angela Gossow is in the top ranks of death metal vocalists, and if you've seen AE live, and seen Gossow do The Immortal, well...
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« Reply #98 on: 08 Jan 2007, 22:40 »

I am not double-posting, nooooo....

Anybody here know some good songs or bands that use A tuning, but sing melodicly? As in, don't scream or don't always scream?

Korn, Linkin Park...

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*laughs* I knew Korn was all about tuning their seven-sting to A, but Linkin Park? Really? I didn't know.

...Why do I find that mildly amusing?
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Re: Drop D tuning
« Reply #99 on: 09 Jan 2007, 02:50 »

Well the first song on Meteora is played on seven string, and the footage I've seen he's certainly playing the ol' one-finger chords. I'm pretty sure they downtune on every fucking song they do, even when they have no need to, like then.
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