Topic: Looking for Rock (Read 13906 times)

TrueNeutral · « **on:** 09 Jan 2007, 18:15 »

I'm on the lookout for some rock-ish music that's at least somewhat accessible for me, because I'm currently in a situation where I don't have a lot of time to listen to music and getting into new bands usually takes me some time.

The kind of stuff I'm lookin' for would be like Screaming Trees, The Foo Fighters, Modest Mouse since "Good News", Eels' "Souljacker" album, The Pixies' "Doolittle" or Pavement's "Crooked Rain".

Anyone got some suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Will · « **Reply #1 on:** 09 Jan 2007, 19:05 »

I nominate Stavesacre. I'd say try their newest album, "How To Live With A Curse." You may enjoy it; it's rock in the vein of Foo Fighters and the like. Also, if you haven't heard it yet, I recommend the album "Antenna" by Cave In. This is the one that was universally hated by all of the Cave In fans from before, and it sort of tanked commercially, but I am of the opinion that it was just some damn good, and solid, modern rock.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2 on:** 09 Jan 2007, 20:41 »

Ted Leo.

Thrillho · « **Reply #3 on:** 09 Jan 2007, 21:38 »

I second Antenna, one of my favourite albums, brilliant stuff, particularly 'Seafrost.'

I also recommend the first Black Rebel Motorcycle Club album, and the Twilight Singers albums Blackberry Belle and in particular Powder Burns. As far as favourite albums, the latter would be in my top ten, and I picked it as the best album released in 2006 at the site I write for.

Will · « **Reply #4 on:** 09 Jan 2007, 23:40 »

I was hoping that "Antenna" would be a little more similar to "Jupiter" than what it was, but overall I thought it was a good cd. Never really understood why it got all the hate that it did. It's a better album than Perfect Pitch Black was, anyway...

Thrillho · « **Reply #5 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 03:03 »

I've honestly never bought any more Cave In because I like that album so much. 'Seafrost' is like a distillation of my kind of music into nine minutes. Five minutes of restrained, glacial rock, and then four minutes of 'fuck you' feedback noise!

Storm Rider · « **Reply #6 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 05:29 »

Spiritual Beggars. Hopefully they're easier to find in Europe than they are over here.

Gridgm · « **Reply #7 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 06:01 »

well hate to keep doing this but until someone other than me starts recomending them i'm going to have to go with dallas crane again in particular their self titled effort although it is all good

also alter bridge, audioslave, be your own pet, grinspoon (in particular the early stuff) and then all the classic stuff which someone will undobtably fill you in on

Johnny C · « **Reply #8 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 06:05 »

Quote from: Gridgm on 10 Jan 2007, 06:01

alter bridge

Imagine there is somebody famous for atrocities, and they have a child guilty of all but the worst offences. Gridgm has just recommended that you go out on a date with that child.

Gridgm · « **Reply #9 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 06:11 »

meh, i don't live in america where i've heard that they have innumerable offences in comparison to australia where they don't actually get airtime so they're still half decent...only my opinion of course

Storm Rider · « **Reply #10 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 06:36 »

What Johnny C is referring to is that Alter Bridge is an offshoot of Creed, which pretty much makes them automatically unlistenable.

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #11 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 06:41 »

It's not that it makes them automatically unlistenable. It makes them highly suspicious.

It's the fact that they suck choad that makes them unlistenable.

Gridgm · « **Reply #12 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 07:36 »

Quote from: Storm Rider on 10 Jan 2007, 06:36

What Johnny C is referring to is that Alter Bridge is an offshoot of Creed, which pretty much makes them automatically unlistenable.

and black sabbath used to be called the honky tonk blues band...

i thought he was referring to miles kennedy's speech about how they were going to become the embodiment of corporate rock sellout even more though than nirvana

2 things alterbridge has that creed never did decent solo's, no christian influence

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #13 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 07:38 »

You're absolutely right about both those things, Mark Tremonti actually does know his way around the fretboard pretty well. And wouldja look at that? Scott Stapp nowhere near it. Looks like it might be good...

oh... here comes the album, let's download it... and... play...

OH NO FUMBLE DELETE DELETE

Will · « **Reply #14 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 11:13 »

Okay, another one I thought of...you really should have a copy of "Catch Without Arms" by Dredg...I haven't listened to their older stuff yet, although I've heard it's actually better, but this cd when I heard it last year was one of those "Holy shit this is good!" moments

Ernest · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 11:15 »

Radiohead, Radio Birdman, Dinosaur Jr. . .

Johnny C · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 11:17 »

I saw Dredg live at Taste Of Chaos this year. Their utter disdain for a stadium audience that could care less for their music was impressive, if only because it takes a lot of guts to deliberately antagonize a big audience (though the shift in the tour's tone this year brought out a smaller and shittier crowd, certainly). Their stuff sounded pretty good, to tell the truth.

Hat · « **Reply #17 on:** 10 Jan 2007, 13:44 »

Quote from: Gridgm on 10 Jan 2007, 06:01

grinspoon (in particular the early stuff)

In particular, absolutely nothing after Easy. NOTHING. They are one of those examples where I actually kind of wish they'd kept doing hard drugs. Nowadays, Phil is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, and even their more rockin' tunes aren't nearly as edgy.

Gridgm · « **Reply #18 on:** 11 Jan 2007, 06:26 »

yeah thrills spills and so forth has nothing on black friday and DCX3 (i think that was the first cd i bought actually)

CamusCanDo · « **Reply #19 on:** 11 Jan 2007, 10:34 »

Spoon and Man Man.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #20 on:** 12 Jan 2007, 02:56 »

the lovely feathers are absurdly good. tons of energy and great (totally nonsensical) lyrics. they've honestly become one of my favorite bands of late. track down 'hind hind legs' (which should be easy) and the equally good (if not better) ep 'my best friend daniel' (why it's an ep i don't know. it's as long as the lp).

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #21 on:** 12 Jan 2007, 07:52 »

Dredg have been one of my favorites for years. Catch Without Arms was actually quite a disappointment for me, after the Orph EP, and LP's "Leitmotif" and "El Cielo" - they blow CWA away. CWA has its moments though.

Top 5 Recommended tracks from DREDG:

Symbol Song
Lechium
Kayasuma
Same 'Ol Road
Whoa Is Me

Will · « **Reply #22 on:** 12 Jan 2007, 08:45 »

It seems like everyone that knew of Dredg prior to CWA thinks that their old stuff was better. I don't know if it's because I didn't get into them until late in the game or what, but CWA really blew my mind when I heard it. Normally, I'm a big fan of under-production on albums, but Catch Without Arms was so damned slick and catchy, plus Gavin's vocals can only be adequately described as "makes you feel as though you are flying" on some of those songs. I like what I've heard of Leitmotif and El Cielo, but I think CWA was actually an improvement.

Now I have to go listen to their older material to verify whether this statement in fact still rings true!

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #23 on:** 12 Jan 2007, 08:52 »

CWA is definitely their most accessible album. Not that that's an issue. I have only listened to it a couple times so there's always the possibility that I would like it more with more listens... even though it's so accessible as I've said... ahem... But yeah, those tracks I recommended! Vital!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 Jan 2007, 23:26 »

Man, this thread is bizarre. Title says he's looking for rock, but the thread contains very little rocking!

I recommend everyone buys 'Frequencies From Planet 10' by Orange Goblin, because everyone has to start listening to good music at some point.

Kyros · « **Reply #25 on:** 13 Jan 2007, 23:33 »

I'm going to go ahead and second the reccomendations for Spoon and Ted Leo.

Ernest · « **Reply #26 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 00:00 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 13 Jan 2007, 23:26

Man, this thread is bizarre. Title says he's looking for rock, but the thread contains very little rocking!

I recommend everyone buys 'Frequencies From Planet 10' by Orange Goblin, because everyone has to start listening to good music at some point.

Wow, I wouldn't have expected you to recommend something inferior to Queens of the Stone Age. Why didn't you just say Motorhead? That's a much more solid recommendation.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #27 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 00:19 »

Queens of the what?

I mean honestly, I know of them obviously, but I can't say I've ever heard a track.

Meanwhile, Orange Goblin kick your ass. They're great guys and 'Magic Carpet' is one of the most perfect rock 'n roll tracks of all time. I wasn't going to recommend Motorhead because it would quite clearly have killed or maimed some of the people in this thread.

Ernest · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 00:29 »

Let me explain myself. I don't think Orange Goblin are bad. They're alright. However, you said there was very little rocking on this thread even after I recommended Dinosaur Jr (before you cold diss them, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNceya3MPdU) and Radio Birdman. I did kick myself for not recommending Motorhead, though.

I'm gonna recommend MC5 right about now.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 00:35 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 13 Jan 2007, 23:26

the thread contains very little rocking!

If I'd have meant 'no rocking' I would have said 'no rocking'.

Ernest · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 00:36 »

Radio Birdman and Dinosaur Jr are a little more than "a little" rocking. Point taken, though.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 00:38 »

Those bands are moderately rocking.

Also, did you just try and make me buy a bands hard-rocking credibility by a clip of them playing Download?

LOL.

Patrick · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 04:26 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 09 Jan 2007, 20:41

Ted Leo.

Dude what are you doing! That's a little too heavy on the badassery. Start off our dear friend with something a little less mind-blowingly awesome. You could cause severe trauma in the rockin'-out lobe!

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 05:05 »

Queens Of The Stone Age and Kyuss should both be listened to extensively by EVERYONE.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 06:07 »

I just youtubed Queens of the Stone Age

Man what a yawnfest.

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #35 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 06:13 »

Depends, what song? And which band lineup?

Ernest · « **Reply #36 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 08:40 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 14 Jan 2007, 06:07

I just youtubed Queens of the Stone Age

Man what a yawnfest.

Says the man who listens to Orange Goblin.

Who cares if Dinosaur Jr played Download? I notice you didn't criticize what they played, though. Hey, you've mentioned that you like Propagandhi. You know they played Warped Tour one year, don't you?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #37 on:** 14 Jan 2007, 15:53 »

Propaghandi might come in somewhere in a top 500 or possibly top 400 list of bands I like.

I'm not saying that playing Download harms a bands rocking credibility (though that place is the nadir of heavy music in Europe and I could quite happily wipe out 95% of the bands and people there on any given year and not shed a tear). But you don't say 'HEY BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING LOOK HOW HARD ROCKING THEY ARE' and then post a vid from Download. It's just terribly amusing. As for Dinosaur JRs music, that's a better song than I've heard by them before, but I still ain't going to rush out and buy anything.

I watched three Queens of the Stone Age vids. One of them they were cartoon silhouettes being driven round a Rammstein video by the Insane Clown Posse, another coloured lights were being shone on them whilst a chick took her clothes off, another they were live. Each song consisted of one completely limp-wristed Black Sabbath rip-off bass/guitar theme being repeated endlessly with a few blindingly obvious guitar bits or blindingly annoying keyboard segments played over the top, all accompanied by the most ghastly uninspiring nirvana-lite modern rock vocals I've heard since I last turned on the radio. Sounds like the MTV fare I'd always assumed it to be. What Orange Goblin albums are you criticising them off, btw, because if it's Thieving From the House I'll laugh.

Ernest · « **Reply #38 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 00:05 »

What I have heard of Orange Goblin actually sounds a lot like Queens of the Stone Age, at least as far as guitar and drums. The vocals, however, are inferior in my eyes.

Johnny C · « **Reply #39 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 00:37 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 13 Jan 2007, 23:26

I'm Khar, I like to poo on everyone's taste.

Boris' Pink is pretty rocking. Also Eagles Of Death Metal's Death By Sexy.

Misereatur · « **Reply #40 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 02:09 »

Pink was a disappointment, actually. And I'm a big Boris fan.

Try Akuma No Uta and Amplifier Worship.

Also try The Jesus Lizard's Liar.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #41 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 02:29 »

Man, I looked up more live vids and I can kind of see where you're coming from, but it's still not a comparison I would have made regularly. I mean, they're both use rock instrumentation, and they both obviously smoke lots of dope and...no I'm done.

Actually, why not just listen to Black Sabbath? Or Acid Bath.

No, wait, listening to Acid Bath really would kill you guys.

You would melt and then the resulting goop would kill itself.

Johnny C · « **Reply #42 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 08:05 »

LOL THESE FORUMS HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR ABRASIVE MUSIC

KharBevNor · « **Reply #43 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 11:42 »

I would like to think that was a false thing to say but I look at what is considered rock and there is no other choice, though I am not talking about abrasiveness so much as emotional oomph and teh heavy.

Johnny C · « **Reply #44 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 12:04 »

Admittedly Acid Bath are fairly heavy.

Patrick · « **Reply #45 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 16:57 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 15 Jan 2007, 11:42

I would like to think that was a false thing to say but I look at what is considered rock and there is no other choice, though I am not talking about abrasiveness so much as emotional oomph and teh heavy.

Eh, the weight of the instruments' distortion isn't what makes rock what it is. Just look at Ted Leo. You don't need to have your amp's gain turned all the way up with everything turned up as loud as possible to be a rock band. Give a good rocker any chord progression-- any progression at ALL -- and they will turn it into something worth listening to.

Basically what I'm saying is that rock isn't an amp setting. It's what you're doing on the fretboard with it.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #46 on:** 15 Jan 2007, 20:55 »

I don't get the "Modest Mouse since 'Good News'" part. That's the last album they released, and even though it's got that hit single we all heard until we puked, I daresay it's not THAT different from their earlier stuff. It's not like the Radiohead leap from Pablo Honey to Kid A or something.

Ernest · « **Reply #47 on:** 16 Jan 2007, 18:54 »

Quote from: tommydski on 15 Jan 2007, 15:19

Seriously though, look at the bands he listed. He likes the Foo Fighters and Modest Mouse. He is looking for moderate AOR. Hence the REM suggestion because they were good at the melodic/introspective area of alternative rock. During the 80s they were anyhow. It's a safety recommendation.

Are you making excuses? Was that an excuse?

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #48 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 02:18 »

Okay Khar. Try "The Mosquitoe Song" from QOTSA. That's all I ask. If you don't like that, I won't pester you about them any further.

Thrillho · « **Reply #49 on:** 17 Jan 2007, 05:22 »

Now that song's a lot of things, including great. But 'rock' it ain't.

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