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ok 5 life changing books, lets hear them
« on: 04 Feb 2007, 16:07 »

ok 5 books, why they're this important and who they're by so others can search if interested

1. things fall apart (chinue achebe) simply genious, well written and a fantastic insight into the destruction of africas cultural heritage, beats the start of roots into a cocked hat.

2. go tell it on the mountain (james baldwin) brilliant religous commentry wrapped in a coming of age/ historical family novel. 

3. the life of pi (yann martel) martel managed to capture my idea of the perfect religous attitude in this book, surreal brilliance.

4. brave new world (aldous huxley) huxley manages to show a perfect utopia, and the invert it into a dystopia so well, shows happiness isn't freedom.
 
5. a day in the life of ivan denisovich ( aleksandr solzhenitsyn) one of the primary reasons i now study russian history.
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Re: ok 5 life changing books, lets hear them
« Reply #1 on: 04 Feb 2007, 20:44 »

3. the life of pi (yann martel) martel managed to capture my idea of the perfect religous attitude

The perfect religious attitude involves contempt for agnostics, apparently.

Other than that, this book was okay.

My list:

5. Faith of the Fallen, by Terry Goodkind, for helping me realize that a series that I had once loved a lot had turned to shit, and therefore that I must have developed actual taste in literature somewhere along the way.

4. Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand, for making a significant impression on me when I was a naive high schooler, bringing me (I like to imagine) perilously close to becoming a ridiculous Randroid before college knocked some sense into me, thereby forcing me to realize that I was a fucking idiot when I was younger.

3. Cryptonomicon, by Neil Stephenson, for making me excited about reading books again in a way that I hadn't been since I discovered the Internet.

2. The Man Who Loved Only Numbers, by Paul Hoffman, for being a wonderful paean to mathematics and how it can inspire someone if they happen to be really weird in the first place.

1. Infinite Jest, by David Foster Wallace, for expanding my mind in basically every way that a novel can expand one's mind.
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« Reply #2 on: 04 Feb 2007, 22:16 »


Critique of Pure Reason,
by Immanuel Kant

The Immense Journey: An Imaginative Naturalist Explores the Mysteries of Man and Nature
by Loren Eiseley

Silent Spring,
by Rachel Carson

Remembrance of things past,
by Marcel Proust

Atlas Shrugged
by Ayn Rand

 
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« Reply #3 on: 04 Feb 2007, 22:55 »

The Winter Of Our Discontent by John Steinbeck. Steinbeck has other, better known novels, but this one is a personal favourite of mine as far as his works are concerned.

Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov. A beautiful, flowing masterwork. I can't say enough about this book, so I won't even try, but it's probably my favourite novel.

Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. Hilarious and moving, often simultaneously, while offering acerbic socio-political insight.

If on a winter's night a traveler by Italo Calvino. This was one of the first novels I read with a highly experimental leaning to it, and it succeeded for me because it was page after page of consistently brilliant writing. Calvino dizzyingly layers plots, styles and self-referential asides until the book overwhelms with its genius. Thankfully, Calvino is a master storyteller so he guides you with his hand in yours and his words on your lips.

The Fifth Business by Robertson Davies. Read this book and Davies' novels following the same characters. They're all great.
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Re: ok 5 life changing books, lets hear them
« Reply #4 on: 04 Feb 2007, 23:50 »

1. Anthony Burgess - A Clockwork Orange

I had to read this in my Year 12 English class, last book I ever read for school and wow, what a powerful book, when I read the last chapter I had to go for a walk around my street to clear my head, nothing I've read has ever affected me like that. If you've only see the movie you're missing out, it avoids the enitre last chapter of the book (And there by the point that Burgess is trying to make). I think the character of Alex is one of the most interesting and well constructed characters I've ever read.

2. Nietzsche - Thus Spoke Zarathustra
3. Kierkegaard - The Sickness Unto Death

I read these two within about a week of each other, in my first year of university, it was a pretty interesting time in my life and I was really struggling with a lot of things, my Grandfather had just passed away and I was going through a sort of identiy crisis I guess. More then anything these two books have done more to shape my personal beliefs then anything else I've ever read. These two books were what convinced me to stop going to Church.

4. Albert Camus - The Fall
5. John Paul Sartre - Nausea

I really love the French Existentialist movement and I think these are the two best books it produced, both superbly well written and incredibly thought provocing. For a while now my personal philosphy has sort of bordered between Nihilism, existentialism and absurdism, these books really speak to me.

Other honerable mentions goto "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenace", "Beyond Good and Evil", "Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
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« Reply #5 on: 05 Feb 2007, 03:27 »

1. Illuminatus! (Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson)

If you were on the Isle of Wight over the summer of 2005, you may have heard an echoing blast as if of a bomb exploding: that was my mind about halfway through reading this. Brilliant, insightful, insane and uniquely entertaining.

2. The Lord of the Rings (JRR Tolkien)

I first read it when I was 10: It's rather set the tone ever since.

3. Magick Without Tears (Aleister Crowley)

Best book on the occult ever written, or at least that I've read. The second of Crowleys major works I read, gave me an actual real understanding of Thelema, and made me the weekend Thelemist I am today.

4. Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (Robert M. Pirsig)

The main book that underpins my philosophy of art.

5. Lady Chatterleys Lover (D. H. Lawrence)

Beautiful, redemptive novel that has more to say to me about love than any other.
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Re: ok 5 life changing books, lets hear them
« Reply #6 on: 05 Feb 2007, 04:06 »

1, Earth X.  it reintroduced me to the wonderful world of comics
2, Disinformation, Dr Karl, lots of fun. plus a great mythbuster
3, The Cobain Diaries
4, fight club, chuck palanuk, got me back into reading and writing
5, silk allesandro bochelle (Spelling), groovy work with the format, short and easily digestable
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« Reply #7 on: 05 Feb 2007, 04:47 »

1. Gone With the Wind - Margaret Mitchell

yeah yeah, laugh it up. I'm serious. I read this book when I was 9 or 10. It was my first really really fucking long "grown-up" book. I read it over and over and over again until both covers fell off.  It just served to solidify my already developing addiction to the written word. 

2. 1984 - George Orwell

This is such a cliched response, I know, but I love it just as much as ever, if not more, every time I reread it. It, along with Thomas More's Utopia, Brave New World, Player Piano, and Welcome to the Monkey House (and any other dystopian future literature you can think of) just made me really conscious of all the dark sides of things that can seem like really good developments (technology, socialism, communism, public safety,and so on and so forth).

3. oh fuck I have to go to class now I'll come back and edit this post later. 
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« Reply #8 on: 05 Feb 2007, 11:19 »

if you like brave new world and 1984 try WE by Yevgeny Zamyatin, apparently Orwell read and reviewed it just before writing 1984 i find it's kind of like a cross between the two books. v v good a must read.

oh and on my religion in answer to Valrus i am generaly v okay with agnostics. i reckon you should believe what you want as long as your happy im happy. the impression i got from the life of pi was a boy being accepting of other peoples beliefs and showing them the respect they deserve not one of impatience for agnostics.
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« Reply #9 on: 05 Feb 2007, 12:20 »

I'm not sure I see books as something that should really be life changing.  Ideas maybe, but I think that to be truly life changing you need to experience them.

However, a few books that definitely made me think, or somehow opened a train of thought for me are something I can talk about, though the books share much of the credit with my wonderful friend Jody, who introduced me to many of them.

Deliver Me From Nowhere by Tennessee Jones.  It's a series of short stories that run parallel to Springsteen's Nebraska album.  It is dark, raw, and emotional, and makes you think more about the world of the song and the lives of the characters.

White Noise by Don DeLillo.  This is a great book, and it really turned me onto contemporary American fiction.

I've got a few more, but I have to get back to work.
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« Reply #10 on: 05 Feb 2007, 12:23 »

Pfft...you guys are such adults!

1. Harry Potter (all of them. I'm not going to pinpoint one in particular...but the third one), J.K. Rowling
2. The Hours, Michael Cunningham
3. Sticks and Stones, Lynn Hall
4. Sevens (series), Scott Wallens
5. My Sisters Keeper, Jodi Picoult

(...the only two 'adult' books on there are The Hours and My Sisters Keeper. I am such a child, it's awesome.)
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« Reply #11 on: 05 Feb 2007, 12:58 »

5. Lady Chatterleys Lover (D. H. Lawrence)

Beautiful, redemptive novel that has more to say to me about love than any other.

I daresay this work is Lawrence's masterpiece and that's saying something. Excellent pick.
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« Reply #12 on: 05 Feb 2007, 13:24 »

There are significantly more than 5 books that have changed my life, so these may not be the most important; they are the ones I can think of right now.

1. Barabbas by Par Lagerkvist won the 1951 Nobel Prize for Literature, which must be why my high school library had a copy. Reading it gave me glimmerings of understanding that I wasn't alone in my lack of faith in Christianity. It started my journey to accepting myself as agnostic.

2. The Same Last Name by Kathleen Gilles Seidel was the first Harlequin romance I stole from my mom, in 6th grade. I took it to school, my friends and I all read "the good parts," and I looked up some words in the classroom dictionary. I still remember the plot pretty clearly, too.

3. The Joy of Sex taught me what my clitoris was called. Among other things. Those drawings of hippies in their raincoats and boots haunted me for years, though.

4. Strunk & White's The Elements of Style remains the most important book on my personal reference shelf.

5. Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach changed my afterlife.  Before reading it I was all for cremation; now I want to be composted when I die.
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Re: ok 5 life changing books, lets hear them
« Reply #13 on: 05 Feb 2007, 13:32 »

3. The Joy of Sex taught me what my clitoris was called. Among other things. Those drawings of hippies in their raincoats and boots haunted me for years, though.

...Is it bad that I learned more from a book called "The Gay Sex" then from "The Joy of Sex"? ...Is it also bad that I have read/perused both of these books?


(Edit note: Hey, I could have said perooseled or something horrendous like that)
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« Reply #14 on: 05 Feb 2007, 13:36 »

Nope, not bad.

I learned a lot more about sex from other books than from that one, too. But that was my first. And probably the most life-changing.

Perused, not puroosed.
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« Reply #15 on: 05 Feb 2007, 14:16 »

I'm not sure I see books as something that should really be life changing.  Ideas maybe, but I think that to be truly life changing you need to experience them.

I'm with Dan on this one. However, here are three books that changed my perspective. I can actually see my life as "before reading these books" and "after reading these books":

Naomi Klein - No Logo
Kalle Lasn - Culture Jam (The Uncooling of America)
David Grossman - Yellow Wind

The last one is a collection of articles by Israeli left wing writer David Grossman. It changed my views about the occupation and myself as a left wing.
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Re: ok 5 life changing books, lets hear them
« Reply #16 on: 05 Feb 2007, 14:57 »

ergh i found my parents copy of the joy of sex in an otherwise completely innocent cuboard whilst i was searching for presents one morn. the fact that my dad looks kinda like the bloke really worried my young mind.

i count a book as an experience so i suppose its ok for something to be life changing, anything that can make you think or see something differently can have potential. like i read songs of innocence and experience by Blake recently, i know not really a book as opposed to a poetry collection but still. since really looking into those poems im finding i look at things like politics and establishment differently, much more cynically. its changed my view on life and from that, my life. could just be me though.

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« Reply #17 on: 05 Feb 2007, 18:30 »

Naomi Klein - No Logo

If you liked that, you'll like Alissa Quart's Branded. From Quart's webpage:

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In this chilling and thought-provoking expose, Alissa Quart takes readers on a tour of the unsettling new reality of marketing to teenagers, introducing the disturbingly savvy advertisers who have targeted younger and younger minds and wallets. But beyond the most glaring examples of print ads and commercials, Quart writes, are the quieter yet no less worrisome forms of teen branding: the teen consultants who work for corporations in exchange for product; the teen "memoirists" who consider the selling of their own stories a necessary part of branding themselves; the girls obsessed with cosmetic surgery who will do anything to look like women on TV; the boys who trick themselves up as their favorite brand-covered video-game action heros; and those teens simply obsessed with admission into the name-brand college of their (or their parents') choice. Readers also meet the pockets of kids attempting to turn the tables on the cocksure corporations that cynically strive to manipulate them.

(the video game bit is the only one that falters)
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« Reply #18 on: 06 Feb 2007, 01:51 »

-blood meridian by cormac mccarthy - absolutely destroys anything else that calls itself a "western"
-tropic of cancer by henry miller - I DONT HAVE TO JUSTIFY MYSELF
-the wind-up bird chronicle by haruki murakami - even though all of his stories are essentially "girl vanishes and small object is the most significant thing in the world for a reason i will not go into," there's something that keeps you coming back. i think this is the best one, and it's probably my favorite.
-gravity's rainbow by thomas pynchon - the effect it had on my vocabulary is rivaled only by calvin & hobbes and bad religion
-lolita by vladimir nabokov - i know that i am truly a grown up, now that i get excited about the concept of "wordplay"
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« Reply #19 on: 06 Feb 2007, 03:28 »

You know, I still have to get around to reading 'No Logo'. That said, it's not like I could really hate corporations and advertising any more than I currently do, since I view advertising as something akin to a cross between pollution, mind-control and black magic.
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« Reply #20 on: 06 Feb 2007, 08:02 »

Khar, a large portion of the book is about anti corporate activism. I think you should really read it.

Naomi Klein - No Logo
If you liked that, you'll like Alissa Quart's Branded.

I heard about that book, I'll look it up. Thanks.

So I guess no one read Culture Jam?
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« Reply #21 on: 06 Feb 2007, 09:24 »

Books are absolutetly life changing experiences, you cant pour hours of your life into something without it having the potential to change you.

Its hard to decide which 5 books changed my life the most though but I will try...

1. Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury     Everyone has mentioned all the other books of this type and they all belong on lists like these.  I put this one on here because I read it for the first time in 7th grade and it is the first thing that ever woke up me up and had me questioning the world around me.  I look at the first time I read this book more as a marker for when I started thinking critically about the things I experienced in life and I can thank reading this book for it.

2. Breakfast of Champions - Kurt Vonnegut    Yeah yeah, I'm sure everyone has avoided Vonnegut on the list because its a little cliche but still.  I havent read the book all the way through in years but I occassionally crack it to read two parts, one is a speach an artist gives about a giant painting of his thats of a single neon line, which is really beautiful sounding to me, and the other is the following quote

"I will come to a time in my backwards trip when November eleventh, accidentally my birthday, was a sacred day called Armistice Day. When I was a boy, and when Dwayne Hoover was a boy, all the people of all the nations which had fought in the First World War were silent during the eleventh minute of the eleventh hour of Armistice Day, which was the eleventh day of the eleventh month.  It was during that minute in nineteen hundred and eighteen, that millions upon millions of human beings stopped butchering one another. I have talked to old men who were on battlefields during that minute. They have told me in one way or another that the sudden silence was the Voice of God. So we still have among us some men who can remember when God spoke clearly to mankind.  Armistice Day has become Veterans' Day. Armistice Day was sacred. Veterans' Day is not.  So I will throw Veterans' Day over my shoulder. Armistice Day I will keep. I don't want to throw away any sacred things.  What else is sacred? Oh, Romeo and Juliet, for instance.  And all music is."

3. Jitterbug Perfume - Tom Robbins    I couldnt decide which book from Tom Robbins to talk about since every book of his that I read and every time I re-read them they seem to have a profound affect on me.  This was the first one I read though so here it is.  The books he writes if nothing else should teach you that language is meant to be played with, its no fun when we get boring and predicitable with it.  He's a hold over from the 60's and 70's who still believes the world is magic and hasnt become a cynic and I like that.

I'll edit this and add in the last two later!
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« Reply #22 on: 07 Feb 2007, 00:58 »

2. Breakfast of Champions - Kurt Vonnegut    Yeah yeah, I'm sure everyone has avoided Vonnegut on the list because its a little cliche

I don't see why its Clique. Admittedly, some of his books meander around, but Breakfast of Champions is easily the most qualified book in the "Having changed my life" stakes. In fact, the idea that anyone would even THINK of excluding Vonnegut for being clique (as opposed to for not liking him, and thinking he is in fact an old crank) has made me do this now.

1) Breakfast of Champions: This book is ridiculous. The childlike drawings of arseholes, the way every now and again he will just take a moment to compare the penis sizes of every male in a particular part of the book, all the weird shit really kind of distracted me from the message of this book at first, but after re-reading it, they only strengthened the theme; that ideas are the most powerful tools we as human beings have, when used correctly. This book changed the way I interacted with the world, made me think I was capable of so much more than what I previously thought.

2) Origin of Species: The book that made me sit upright and say to myself "Fucking hell, I might actually want to do this "Science" thing for a living one day

3) Alice's Adventures in Wonderland: When I was a kid, the books I read were light fluff. I had read most of the Babysitters Club books for Christs sake, as well as the Famous Five series. This book was light fluff, but it was light fluff in such a ridiculously insane and excellently done way, that after finishing reading it, I couldn't go back to the shit I had been reading before. This book essentially acted as a gateway drug to ever other good book I ever read

4) The Time Machine: Once again, a gateway book, but this one sparked my interest in sci-fi. After I read this book I spent the better part of a year devouring any science fiction I could get my hands on.

5) The Colour of Magic: For turning me into a massive Pratchett fan, whose works dominate my bookshelf, I figure this needs to be in here.
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« Reply #23 on: 07 Feb 2007, 06:36 »

1) Utopia by St Thomas More - interesting enough to be claimed as an inspiration for the Church, Marxism, Feminism and tons of stuff. And to inspire my username.

2) The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan - When I started reading them I really got into the whole Aes Sedai mindset. I think they're probably the most personality-changing books I've ever read in that I modified my behaviour and sought to be a better person because of them. Also thanks to related websites I am on most of the websites, wear most of the clothes, read all of the webcomics and know most of the people (IRL and online) that I do now. I owe that Jordan guy a lot! Perhaps not life-changing in the way that you mean but probably had the single biggest imparct on my life of anything I will ever read.

3) An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume - his views are so similar to mine and he told me it's okay to take off my philosophy hat when I'm done in class and go back to being a normal person. None of this dreary existentialism! It's also a lot easier to read than the Treatise and I read it first.

4) Dragonflight by Anne McCaffery - introduced me to grown-up sci fi and fantasy fiction. Thanks to the Pern books I have found my niche. Particularly as they led on to reading WoT.

5) Hmm... This is hard. I think I'll leave it at 4 life-changing books or I'll open up the floodgates to all the "quite meaningful books" I've read. Plus I have a good 50 years reading to go, I'm sure I'll come across more in the future...

EDIT: Although, the Air Loom Gang by Mike Jay, which I read a couple of months ago, made me think really hard about pretty much everything - it involved aspects of every area that interests me (history, philosophy, pschology, tales of deceit and intrigue) and made me ask myself a lot of questions about how I look at the world. It's the true story of one James Tilly Matthews, the first case of what we consider schizophrenia, who was sent to Bedlam (infamous early mental institution) at the time of the French Revolution and thought to be completely barking, but in fact had played a role in the French Revolution which was hushed up here in Britain. It made me wonder who is really on my side and how easily could my best intentions lead to disastrous results - even the potential destruction of a nation. Not to mention just what would it take to make me lose my mind and who can really judge such a thing?

That can be my number 5.
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« Reply #24 on: 07 Feb 2007, 09:42 »

Behold a Pale Horse - William Cooper

I Am Legend - Richard Matheson

Alive - Piers Paul Read

The Rule of 4 - Ian Caldwell and Dustin Thomason

The Holographic Universe - Michael Talbot
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« Reply #25 on: 07 Feb 2007, 13:35 »

1. The Diamond Age or A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer by Neal Stephenson
Nanotech, Victorians, and a strangely believable vision of humanity in eighty years from now. It's also being made into a miniseries, though I don't know whether that's good or bad.

2. Dune by Frank Herbert
I mean, come on. :D

3. Battlefield: Earth by L. Ron "Scientology" Hubbard
For teaching me how tastes in books can change over so few years. I used to love this book... now I cringe whenever I look at it.

4.Cryptonomicon... errr, well, ANY book by Neal Stephenson
Sure it takes him years between books, but his stuff is uniformly awesome. Diamond age (above) is still my favourite, but Cryptonomicon's a close second. "Fractally Detailed" is how I'd describe it. A book you can get lost in, and it's not even fantasy.

5. Calculating God by Robert J. Sawyer
Usually his (somewhat preachy) SF stories tend to have atheistic aliens/Neanderthals/ghosts/etc. who think it funny that himans beleive in gods of any kind. In this book, he subverts his own trope by featuring a race of alien Theists on a galactic quest to search for god, and an atheistic human who befreinds one of them.

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« Reply #26 on: 07 Feb 2007, 14:36 »


5. Faith of the Fallen, by Terry Goodkind, for helping me realize that a series that I had once loved a lot had turned to shit, and therefore that I must have developed actual taste in literature somewhere along the way.

Hear hear. Although I don't know that I'd say I loved the series a lot....However...I did read it through faith of the fallen, at which point I learned there was no coming back from the shit he just did and I'd be best off chucking the whole series and why was I reading this anyway? Didn't I give book 1 a bad review on amazon? And I still kept coming back? But I have never read a more preachy series and how the hell did it manage to gain massive popularity while stealing huge segments of other books almost word for word? *mutters*

Anyway....as for my own list....this will require a lot of thought. Can you go around again and come back to me?
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« Reply #27 on: 07 Feb 2007, 20:09 »

1 the Great Gatsby: a shinning example of all we could and shouldn't be.  this one strikes close to home as I live on what was called west egg.
2 Animal Farm: an example not to be a sheep
3 Nichomachean Ethics: It is dense but it has essentially given me my morality
4 The Prince: Machiavelli is of utilitarian function: consider him as a tool and he has the potential to help one do great things.
5 A heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius: no joke this  book taught me the value and potential of honesty.  Eggers might be a megalomaniac but he caught onto somthing.
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« Reply #28 on: 06 Mar 2007, 19:32 »

Oh goodness. I don't know that I have five, but I do have some. Books play too important of a role in my life.

1) 1984, no doubt. It's amazing. I.. don't know what to say about it. Just, wow.
2) Ishmael - Daniel Quinn. It's an environmental book that really got me questioning the roots of our society, and how we came to act the way that we do toward the earth. Amazing book, and I highly recommend it.
3) The Catcher in the Rye - I know a lot of people hate this book, but I loved it. I read it in tenth grade and it was exactly what I needed.
4) A Midsummer Night's Dream - alright, so it's not a book, but it really, really got me into Shakespeare and reading in general. Everyone else I knew hated reading Shakespeare, and this play taught me that I, in fact, love it.
5) Ariel - Sylvia Plath- It's a book of poetry, and it probably wouldn't change anyone else's life, but it made me want to write poetry in high school, which was good for me. Got me through some rather tough years. I love Sylvia Plath to this day, she writes beautifully and with a unique and amazing style. I can't rave about her writing enough.
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« Reply #29 on: 06 Mar 2007, 20:29 »

I really didn't like "A day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich". Just putting it out there.

anyways,
1) The Hitchhiker's trilogy. made me think quite a bit.

2) THe Hobbit. It made me read a lot.

3) Catch-22. Also made me think.

4) Flyboy: Action Figure Comes With Gasmask. Just because.

5) Magic: The Gathering: Time Spiral. Reminded me of my theory on time, which consistently keeps me up all night thinking. It ether confuses you or explodes your mind.
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« Reply #30 on: 07 Mar 2007, 04:21 »

Some of these have already been mentioned, showing just how original I am, but...

5 Ulysses - James Joyce Just because it's the novel that always defeats my attempts to read it.
4 A Canticle For Liebowitz - Walter M. Miller Probably the most hopeless and simultaneously hopeful book I've ever read.
3 The Illuminatus Trilogy - Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea Even when you get past the story itself, you've got the best appendices in any book. Ever. Sometimes I wonder if the book was actually written just so they could include the appendices at the end.
2 The Wind-up Bird Chronicle/Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World - Haruki Murakami: Ok, so I cheated again by listing two novels, but they've both had an effect on how my interior monologue describes things, if that makes any sense whatsoever...
1 The Voices of Time/Chronopolis - J.G Ballard Two short stories in a collection by Ballard I picked up for about $5. They both had an extremely profound effect on me in a way I really can't explain.
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« Reply #31 on: 07 Mar 2007, 12:16 »

Ummmm I don't really have 5.... so heres what I do have.

Faith Of the Fallen - Terry Goodkind This book really changed my outlook on life. Alot of the things I was just to lazy to do it put in perspective.
Trinity - Leon Uris I always knew I had Irish heritage but never really got into until I read this book and it made me love and understand the country my ancestors came     
                                  from and ever since I have learned everything I could about it.
The Stranger - Albert Camus It showed me the importance of finding things in life that make you care and living life caring about whats in it.                           
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« Reply #32 on: 07 Mar 2007, 17:12 »

I'm horrid at summaries, so I'm just editing the ones from Amazon.com to make them shorter...

A Separate Peace- John Knowles
 - Sharing a room at Devon in the summer prior to World War II, Gene and Phineas form a complex bond of friendship that draws out both the best and worst characteristics of each boy and leads ultimately to violence, a confession, and the betrayal of trust.

Children of Men- PD James
 - Near the end of the 20th century, for reasons beyond the grasp of modern science, human sperm count went to zero. The last birth occurred in 1995, and in the space of a generation humanity has lost its future. Divorced, middle-aged Oxford history professor Theo Faron plods through an ordered, bleak existence. But a chance involvement with a group of dissidents moves him onto unexpected paths, leading him, in the novel's compelling second half, toward risk, commitment and the joys and anguish of love.

Phantom- Susan Kay
 - A re-telling of Gaston Leroux's book "The Phantom of the Opera", this version begins with the birth of the horribly disfigured Erik and continues into the years following his doomed romance with Christine, ending in an unexpected and triumphant redemption. The narrative encompasses Erik's disastrous formative years with his mother, his caged existence among a gypsy tribe and a period of relative happiness in Rome, where he perfects his skills as an architect and builder. He goes to Persia, where he masters his talent for torture and murder and, finally, he is involved in the construction of the Paris Opera House--and the creation of his labyrinthine world beneath that structure.

Because of Romek- David Faber
 - A memoir of a Holocaust survivor, but it's not done up like Elie Wiesel's "Night" (which is also good). It's gritty, real, horrifying, and touching at the same time. I had the chance to hear him speak about his experiences in multiple concentration camps, and that man drove me to tears many times.

Death Be Not Proud- John Gunther
 - Johnny Gunther was only seventeen years old when he died of a brain tumor. During the months of his illness, everyone near him was unforgettably impressed by his level-headed courage, his wit and quiet friendliness, and, above all, his unfaltering patience through times of despair. This deeply moving book is a father's memoir of a brave, intelligent, and spirited boy.
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« Reply #33 on: 07 Mar 2007, 18:19 »

There are a lot of books I have enjoyed.  I have a lot of "favourite" books depending on when you ask me.  "Life-changing" is a lot different to "favourite" though.  Let's see.

In no order, and spelling of authors from memory (so sorry if they are wrong):

- Goldilocks & the Three Bears, Anon.  Collected by the Brothers Grimm.  My mother would read this book to me when I was very young, and I memorised it to the point where I would read it to her rather than the other way around.  It started me reading at a very early age, and thus changed my life (I believe) for the better.

- On Equilibrium, John Ralston Saul.  This is the last in a series of books that basically amount to a concerted critique of the perversion of the term "reason" and at least the western world's over-reliance upon the perverted version of it.  I've since started reading the first book, with the intention to read through the entire series.

- Sophie's World, Jostein Gaardner.  This book is basically philosophy for beginners wrapped around an interesting story.  I have read a fair few philosophy books since this, but this got me started in a very simple, effective manner.

- Understanding Power, Noam Chomsky.  A collection of lectures from Chomsky on a variety of topics.  I had already read something from him and thought I knew what he was about, but this book opened my mind up to there being something other than "Left" and "Right" as political concepts.

- The Communist Manifesto, Marx & Engels (with intro by Gareth Stedman Jones).  I have only read the intro so far, but this book has already changed the way I look at socialism and communism in particular (in a very negative fashion).  I prefaced this book with a primer on Socialism and will be chasing it up with a couple of other things like Marx's Kapital and some reading on the history and philosophy of that era.  At the moment Marx especially is reminding me of a 1840s version of basically every rabid, misguided upper middle-class socialist university student.
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« Reply #34 on: 08 Mar 2007, 03:25 »

- Sophie's World, Jostein Gaardner.  This book is basically philosophy for beginners wrapped around an interesting story.  I have read a fair few philosophy books since this, but this got me started in a very simple, effective manner.

I really tried hard with this book, but I wasn't taken by the story and thought the philosophy parts moved way too slowly. I think I should just get a textbook.
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« Reply #35 on: 09 Mar 2007, 03:45 »

#1 - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_A_Harsh_Mistress) - Robert A. Heinlein

This book was, and is, a wake up call to the public at large.  One thing that everyone has to understand is that there truly is no such thing as a free lunch!

#2 - Time Enough for Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_For_Love) - Robert A. Heinlein

Remarkably liberal for it's time, this collection of short stories dressed up in an overall novel, brought to the forefront the idea that love can have many more ways of being expressed than those in which a society limits it.

#3 - 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four) - George Orwell

The quintessential dystopia novel, this more than any other that I've read, brings forth the sheer horror of government out of control.

#4 - I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth_and_I_Must_Scream) - Harlan Ellison

In one of the cruelest bits of irony, this story taught me that the good guys do not always win.  One of the most haunting endings of any piece of literature.

#5 - Freehold (http://www.webscriptions.net/ps-162-112-freehold.aspx) - Michael Z. Williamson

I truly enjoyed this novel, and it made me start to question what it means to truly be free.  Freedom is not easy nor safe, but true freedom and liberty is when you willingly accept the consequences and responsibilities of the choices you make.
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« Reply #36 on: 19 Mar 2007, 01:33 »

I was not the same person after reading any of the following books:

5. Aldous Huxley - Island

I haven't read Brave New World, or in fact anything else by Huxley aside from Island, but it's the only clear look I've ever gotten at a utopia that actually works.  It reinforced my idealism and gave me a wonderfully clear picture for how humanity should be reworked.  It's also a splendid presentation of one person's rise out of cynicism and pessimistic self-hatred, and while it can get preachy (see previous sentence) it's still wonderful.  Extremely underrated in my opinion, because very rarely have I heard anyone else speak of it.

4. Richard Bach - Jonathan Livingston Seagull

This book takes about an hour to read through in its entirety, but it's one of the most powerful books I've ever read by far.  The message it sends to the reader (quite directly I might add) is profoundly inspiring.  I find that reading this book is a really good way to recharge and get myself back into feeling good about life, in the relatively-rare periods when I need such a thing and the more-common periods when I don't need it but I could still use it.  Also, "Illusions: Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah" is basically "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" squared in every way: a more direct, more complete explanation of how Richard Bach sees the world and what is so cool about reading an entire book about exactly that.

3. Alan Watts - The Book, or, On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are

Alan Watts was a hell of a brilliant writer on the topic of Eastern religion.  He's extremely readable but at the same time he manages to deal with some of the most powerful metaphysical ideas philosophy has to offer, and his fairly unwaveringly positive message was pretty extraordinary to come across at the exact time in my life when I was most receptive to it.  He gives readers a mix between Zen Buddhism and Taoism that has been made quite accessible to Western minds, and it's actually pretty fun to read.  It's also very, very philosophically inspiring.  It changed the way I think on a basic level.

2. Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea - Illuminatus! trilogy

This has been mentioned before, so I'll be breif.  It's a huge, twisting, turning, seething mass of words and ideas and thoughts designed to fuck your mind to the point of multiple headgasm.  It changed the way the world works for me.

1. Tom Robbins - Skinny Legs and All

Tom Robbins is probably the reason why I read all of the above books in the first place, and I've read more by him than I have by any of the above authors, so he definitely takes the cake.  "Skinny Legs and All" was the first book of his that I read and it affirmed so many things I believed to be good about the world that I went around with a permanent smile on my face for at least a week after reading it.  "Jitterbug Perfume" did this to me too, but I'm giving the nod to "Skinny Legs" because it was my first.  If I had to nail down a book that did more to change my life for the better than any other it would probably be this one, even though I feel a bit more closely connected to a few of the others listed above at the current time (on the other hand I haven't reread "Skinny Legs" yet and it's high time).  Tom Robbins is a fucking god of literature and everyone should buy every book he's ever written.  Tom Robbins is at least 10-15% of the reason why I've been a happy person for the last 2-3 years.

Obviously all of the above books are heavily recommended.  HEAVILY.
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« Reply #37 on: 02 Apr 2007, 05:36 »

1.The Alchemist by Paul Coelho
Simple yet beautiful. A book for a rainy day to remind you of all the beauty and wonder that life holds, a must read for everyone. Is my favourite book to pacify and calm me when im getting too caught up in all the silly things

2.Sophies World by Jostein Gaarder
Same as est i guess, what first got me into philosophy, and made me realised that the petulant questions we all ask aren't childish but just proof of a deeper philosophical search for something more

3.The 5 People You Meet in Heaven by Mitch Albom
There is actually quite a story behind this book... I was in a bookstore on my birthday and the cute friend of a friend (who i had a crush on and just happened to work there) was teasing me everytime i picked a book off the shelf so in the end exasperated i told him to pick a book for me, and so this was the book he picked off the shelf and purchased for me as a present. I was so blown away at the spontaneous and random act of kindness but when i got home i was even more happy to find his phone number written on the back of a bookmark. By the time I finished the book I knew he was the guy for me .... (lame and totally cheesy romantic comedy moment but oh well were happy)

4.1984- George Orwell
So poignant, with lessons that ring true today. A scary yet increasingly possible prediction of what could be

5. Life of Pi by Yann Martell
Again just a well crafted story that makes you think long after the final page is turned


I gould go on and on with other favourites that played a part in my life but there are far far too many (I am such a book nerd)

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« Reply #38 on: 02 Apr 2007, 12:49 »

Not a whole lot is coming to mind off the top of my head. I will say, for now, the Epic of Gilgamesh. If only for this quote:

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Gilgamesh, where are you hurrying to? You will never find that life for which you are looking. When the gods created man they allotted to him death, but life they retained in their own keeping. As for you, Gilgamesh, fill your belly with good things; day and night, night and day, dance and be merry, feast and rejoice. Let your clothes be fresh, bathe yourself in water, cherish the little child that holds your hand, and make your wife happy in your embrace; for this too is the lot of man.

It's nothing terribly profound, nothing new to me, but in reading it I felt like I was staring across time at the face of another person who lived and died thousands of years before me, who yet felt and thought the exact same way that I do. It was very Whitman, and I love Whitman.

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« Reply #39 on: 03 Apr 2007, 03:48 »

In no particular order:


Harper Lee   -   To Kill A Mocking Bird (to be terribly clich?d...)

Ben Elton   -   Stark(I'm gonna add "The First Casualty" in here cuz otherwise it wouldn't be 5 books, but that's my favourite Ben Elton book [read them all]) :] Stark was the first Ben Elton book I read after the first one, if you get what I mean - it was the one I read after the "curiousity" read when I reaslised this guy was a total GENIOUS.

J R R Tolkien   -   The Hobbit/The Lord Of The Rings (another obvious) Read these when I was seven and was COMPLETELY bewitched..........FAB :]

Spike Milligan   -   The Collection Not actually finished reading these - my dad keeps thrusting books my way and I forgot i was even reading them, but they're really fantastic and... Oh I'm so badat writing about books, just read them!!

eehh... last one........ There's so many I wanna put!! Errm..
....I'll leave it for now, I'll add to it laterrrs SO MUCH TO CHOOSE FROM  it hurts....


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« Reply #40 on: 04 Apr 2007, 22:41 »

Not so much life-changing as they are awesome but w/e.

Slaughter-House 5 - Kurt Vonnegut

Hocus Pocus - Kurt Vonnegut

Lotr/Hobbit - J.R.R

Number9Dream - David Mitchell

Ender's Game/Ender's Series - Orson Scott Card
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« Reply #41 on: 07 Apr 2007, 00:42 »

I'll start with just a list of five, and mayhaps I'll edit in the reasoning/stories behind them a bit later.

- Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs

- A Confederacy Of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole

- Last Exit To Brooklyn by Hubert Selby Jr.

- The Stone Diaries by Carol Shields

- A Heartbreaking Work Of Staggering Genius by Dave Eggers
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« Reply #42 on: 17 Apr 2007, 13:14 »


#4 - I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth_and_I_Must_Scream) - Harlan Ellison

In one of the cruelest bits of irony, this story taught me that the good guys do not always win.  One of the most haunting endings of any piece of literature.


Me love you long time for mentioning Ellison. I can not stress this enough folks, if you haven't gone out and picked up something by HARLAN ELLISON then waste no more time go do it.

1. A Boy and His Dog -Harlan Ellison
Possibly one of the best short stories ever written, covers subjects such as love, loyalty, and sacrifice.
2. The Giver- Lois Lowry
The very first utopia/dystopia novel I ever read. Since then I have really started to question everything.
3. Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Ticktockman - Harlan Ellison
Another fantastic story by Harlan Ellison, I just can't say enough good things about this man!
4. Speaker for the Dead/Xenocide- Orson Scott Card
Both these books really taught me that as human beings we need to dig deeper than the surface on different people. We don't just have to understand them from our perspective but we need to understand from theirs as well.
5. The Cost of Discipleship- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Christian though it may be, Bonhoeffer was an amazing man, that did truly amazing things, and should provide an example to us all on the strength of our convictions.
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« Reply #43 on: 19 Apr 2007, 14:03 »

1) The Poet by Ralph Waldo Emerson. Really raises the bar for poets. A beautiful writer and thinker.
2) The Epic of Gilgamesh. A interesting response to nihilism from one the oldest western texts.
3) The Awakening by Kate Chopen. If you get the chance, read this book. Very engaging book about being free from convention and what that might mean.
4) Sandman by Neil Gaimen. For better or for worse this guy is a huge influence on my writing. I'm not sure if I'm as big a fan as I was though.
5) The Tempest By William Shakespeare. A wonderful Platonic text. Shakespeare at his best.
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« Reply #44 on: 20 Apr 2007, 01:46 »

1. things fall apart (chinue achebe) simply genious, well written and a fantastic insight into the destruction of africas cultural heritage, beats the start of roots into a cocked hat.

This was ruined for me, like many a good book, by an overzealous high school English teacher.

Rabbit At Rest by John Updike
For showing me that "live life to the fullest" isn't just some clich? tossed around by therapists, life coaches, parents and elementary school teachers.

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time by Mark Haddon
For warming my heart, and prompting me to learn more about autism (now a fascination of mine).

1984 by George Orwell
Simply an amazing work of literature on so many levels.

To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
For being so incredibly easy to relate to.

I'm With Stupid by Gina Barreca and Gene Weingarten
For teaching me that females will go to great lengths to keep their pants from touching the floor in public restrooms.
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« Reply #45 on: 20 Apr 2007, 09:41 »

Okay, life-changing as opposed to favourite... lessee.

1. The Pawn of Prophecy, by David Eddings. Woulda been Jordan's The Eye of the World, because that's the book that led me to the internet (which affected my life and my personal development in ways too numerous to list :o) and got me into the whole online discussion thing, but Eddings got me into Fantasy in the first place.

2. Parallel Thinking, by Edward de Bono. This book first made me really scrutinise my thinking habits, and it's what made me obsessed with being constructive in everything I do. I don't know if any other book has had such a direct effect on my behaviour and my life :) metacognition ftw.

3. This book about astronomy... I can't remember its name, but it was the first book I checked out of my school library, all on my own, back in second grade, and it inspired in me a lifelong love for space :) from astronomy to astrophysics to physics to a huge world of popular science books that shaped my school years. I wish I could remember its name :(

4. Consciousness Explained, by Daniel Dennett. This is the book that first got me interested in cognitive science, and that interest has had a huge impact on my reading and my schoolwork since ninth grade or something. This is the book that properly sparked my interest in the huge field of psychology (if I hadn't gone for medicine, I woulda been reading psychology now... and I'm still interested in specialising in psychiatry). This is also the book that got me interested in evolutionary biology. Through Dennett's work I learned more about Dawkins, and eventually decided to check out The Selfish Gene, which led to yet another long-lasting interest/obsession.

I'll leave the fifth slot open for now. I try to get something useful out of every book I read, but for the sake of this list I'm trying to avoid examples that'll strike me as being, you know, trivial, a few days from now. So no Three Little Pigs (the first book in English that I read on my own), no Big Book of Tell Me Why (the best present my dad ever gave me, a book that totally blew my 9-y-o mind), no mythology books, no G?del Escher Bach... argh, this is difficult >_<
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« Reply #46 on: 20 Apr 2007, 13:29 »

Rabbit At Rest by John Updike
For showing me that "live life to the fullest" isn't just some clich? tossed around by therapists, life coaches, parents and elementary school teachers.

This is the one Rabbit book I've yet to read.  I've loved the other three, and I'm planning on starting this one sometime in the next week.  Fantastic series so far.
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« Reply #47 on: 21 Apr 2007, 09:02 »

Rabbit At Rest by John Updike
For showing me that "live life to the fullest" isn't just some clich? tossed around by therapists, life coaches, parents and elementary school teachers.

This is the one Rabbit book I've yet to read.  I've loved the other three, and I'm planning on starting this one sometime in the next week.  Fantastic series so far.

You should! It was a fantastic novel.

I suggest not doing it on your birthday or wedding day, though. But if you've read the other three, you know that already. :-D
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« Reply #48 on: 23 Apr 2007, 11:43 »

I'm gonna go ahead and follow in the Vonnegut trend and put some others, too.

1. Mother Night - Kurt Vonnegut

-I also really enjoyed Galapogos, Cat's Cradle, Slaughterhouse-V, Breakfast of Champions, Man Without a Country, Harrison Bergeron from Welcome to the Monkey House, and I'm reading Jailbird right now.

2. Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein

-I think this book basically proved the theory I had that no one should have absolute power even if they have good intentions.

3. The Stand - Stephen King

-Really got me into reading a lot in my High School years.  I read a lot in elementary/middle school but kind of soured on it because the books I liked were kind of kiddy--(Animorphs, Harry Potter (which i still read), etc.)

4. HHGTTG (series) - Douglas Adams
 
-And in that same vein anything by Russell Like.

5. There are a bunch of other books I like so I can't narrow this last spot down.
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« Reply #49 on: 17 May 2007, 21:54 »

1. Les Misérables - Victor Hugo

Kept me up shivering until 2 AM for many nights. I'm convinced that Hugo's compassion and agony for the human race made me a better person. When I finished it I immediately felt like going to church and praying, then calling everyone I had ever met.

2. Harry Potter 1-6 - J. K. Rowling

Kept me believing in magic when I was starting to feel cynical by Jr. High. On a more global scale, the series basically revived the dying children's lit industry single-handedly. I'm pretty grateful for that.

3. Anne of Green Gables and subsequent novels - L. M. Montgomery

I don't think I've ever read a series so many times (apart from #2). I actually prefer her "Emily of New Moon" series, but they're all fun and helped me to get in touch with my cultural identity - as a Canadian and as a Canadian writer.

4. In Other Words - Christopher J. Moore

A delightful dictionary of untranslatable words from around the world. Fascinating, and colourful. Instrumental in beginning my obsession with language and its relationship with culture.

5. Falling Up - Shel Silverstein

This still stands up as really great poetry to me. Silverstein's books of poetry was the springboard for my own poetry, and I'm pretty sure my writing still echoes him to this day. My friend and I used to memorize poems from Falling Up and see who could recite them the fastest. I don't know how I wasn't beat up at all in elementary school.
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