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[Gridgm]

this is gridgms latest playlist/mix cd he's decided to create

pretty much in involves any song i can lay my hands on which has lyrics involving cutting yourself because of various emotional reasons but with the exception of no emo bands being allowed

havn't got very far but so far canidates include
be your own pet - october first account (we've cut ourselves open a hundred times)
iron maiden - the evil that men do (and i would run to her, i would call her name aloud, i would bleed for her, if i could only see her now
placebo - every you and every me (carve your name into my arm instead of stressed i lie here charmed)


anywayz i think you get the idea (there's quite a few more but can't be bothered typing them out at the moment) pretty much just looking for suggestions for my teenage angst list

[Ernest]

I would recommend a lyric from "Step on Chameleon" by Drive Like Jehu, but you might consider them an emo band.

[Will]

Curl Up And Die - "Ultra Carb Diet Carpooling Stupid Fucking Life" (still drawing triangles on my wrists)

[Gridgm]

I would recommend a lyric from "Step on Chameleon" by Drive Like Jehu, but you might consider them an emo band.

well i don't know i didn't count placebo and they're definatly borderline

[amok]

M83 - Addiction To Self Mutilation? (From the 'Teen Angst' ep, which amuses me)

I can't actually tell what the guy's singing half the time so whether this is lyrically viable, I have no idea.

[denialgene]

I would also consider Placebo borderline emo.

[Gridgm]

thisis for suggestions denialgene not criticisms...be nice =)

[Scytale]

2 from the top of my head

Queensryche - The Needle Lies

Carved my cure with the blade
That left me in scars
Now every time I'm weak
Words scream from my arm

and

Carpathian Forest - Cold Murderous Music (Pretty much the creepiest song about suicide you'll hear).


People Don't Care.
This is how life goes.

Take a shotgun
And blow out your brain
You're not using it anyway

Why don't you kill yourself
Slit, your wrists
First the right one
Now the left.

[SeanBateman]

Justin Timberlake- Chop me up. Knives chop and cut.

Real ideas tomorrow when I'm not stoned.

[Scytale]

Another one:

Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon


On the day of my final sacrifice
The chilling steel opens my veins
Blood stains my skin
Silver chalice must be filled

[mer]

world/Inferno Friendship Society- Go with it girl "now show me yours, your cuts of course no problem sure"

[Gridgm]

scytale lol the black metal book of emo

[KharBevNor]

Acid Bath - Scream of the Butterfly

"Sunshine in the house of flames
She loves it where she gets it
But it's never felt the same
Surgery, in the house of dissection
When your candle burns out..I'll resurrect you
She runs
Through fields of daisies
Yeah, it's just a shame that they eat their own babies
Who cares?
Cos the air is free
When you get there will you kiss the dead for me?

Something cold is forced inside her
A tears spill down her cheek
Stillborn songs of a dead dreamer
Hymn's of a needle freak

With sunlight in her hair she smiles like she don't care
Her dreams of liquid blue
I cut myself again and again to remind myself of you"

I think that's their only song that explicitly mentions self-mutilation. Mutilations ranks only behind massive drug consumption as their favourite lyrical topic, but its normally people other than the singer. Some other songs do imply self-mutilation though.

Also, there is no planet in thus universe on which any remotely normal or legitimate usage of the word emo could be used to describe Placebo, except as a word for 'anyone wearing black'.

[David_Dovey]

Nine Inch Nails- Hurt. Duh. Or the Johnny Cash version for indie cred.

Seeing as the songs you mentioned don't explicitly mention self-mutilation per se, (a line like "I'd bleed for you" is pretty damn common in love songs and I wouldn't consider it implicit of self-mutilation) I'm surprised you're having any trouble at all.

[Scytale]

scytale lol the black metal book of emo

lol yeah

90% of all Black Metal falls into these 5  lyrical categories:

Suicide / Death / Misanthropy
Forests/ Nature / Snow / Coldness
Nihilism / War
Blasphemy / Occultism
Nationalism /Vikings / Paganism

Of course that's very over simplified but you get the idea.

[onewheelwizzard]

Queens of the Stone Age - "Gonna Leave You" and "You Can't Quit Me Baby"

"Gonna Leave You" is sorta iffy ("Everything scars the skin/push it in/push it in/break it off" might be metaphorical) but "You Can't Quit Me Baby" is a must.

"Slashed and I cut
I bled in the sink
Heard what you said
and you're laughing baby
slashed and I cut
and I do it for you
I want you to notice
when I'm not around
wherever you are"

Just an excerpt.

[amok]

Also, there is no planet in thus universe on which any remotely normal or legitimate usage of the word emo could be used to describe Placebo, except as a word for 'anyone wearing black'.

Actually, on Pluto "emo" means "ladyboy". Otherwise you're pretty much dead on here.

[Gridgm]

Nine Inch Nails- Hurt. Duh. Or the Johnny Cash version for indie cred.

Seeing as the songs you mentioned don't explicitly mention self-mutilation per se, (a line like "I'd bleed for you" is pretty damn common in love songs and I wouldn't consider it implicit of self-mutilation) I'm surprised you're having any trouble at all.

ok true true but you have to relize that the lines around it are the emotional context i'm talking about i probly won't count queensryche's the needle lies or  hurt either since technically their about drug addiction and havn't really mentioned a girl (i will kill the person who brind up sister mary because the needle lies is about heroin addiction not love)

*EDIT* further thoughts

it wasn't so much that i couldn't find material so much that i couldn't find the songs i wanted...i'm trying to create a vibe i'm just not quite sure about it till i hit the song if you know what i mean

[David_Dovey]

Huh. I always considered "Hurt" to be about cutting. Sure he uses the word "needle" but it never entered my mind that he'd be talking about drugs.

[Scytale]

ok true true but you have to relize that the lines around it are the emotional context i'm talking about i probly won't count queensryche's the needle lies or  hurt either since technically their about drug addiction and havn't really mentioned a girl (i will kill the person who brind up sister mary because the needle lies is about heroin addiction not love)

Ahh sorry I didn't realise you were after the love aspect of it, I'm of the opinion that Mary hasn't died until "Electric Requiem" anyway.

[Gridgm]

Huh. I always considered "Hurt" to be about cutting. Sure he uses the word "needle" but it never entered my mind that he'd be talking about drugs.

the whole album is about drugs from the first song mr self destruct (he's destroying himself) to the end at hurt where he can't live without them

[Ernest]

Drive Like Jehu- Step on Chameleon

"You wanna fist, you wanna ride, go to school so you can hide, step on the
bus be rewarded, get off last & yer retarded, last off, last in line,
chameleon doin' fine, second hand will tick, pancake batter gettin' thick,
cut my finger on a butter knife, watch the blood flow down just like the
blood i see on yer hands. Bloody foot print swollen tongue, scaly skidmark
better run, bitter swallow get you numb. - What is gold? Silverbullet."

[ElleryMSG]

first thing that comes to mind is miranda sex garden's Cut which goes
Sharp wire
Cuts through foam
Cuts slow
Cuts so deep

Slow it,
Slow it down
Let me
Feel it again

Sharp wire
Cuts through foam
Cuts slow
Cuts so deep

Slow it,
Slow it down
Let me
Feel it again

if you want proof that they aren't emo then go and listen to their first album, Madra
also if you like a good song about suicide (again not emo, this time its industrial) The art of suicide by Emilie Autumn

Life is not blind
Maybe someday
With a second ending
When the people are disturbed
Well they should be disturbed
Because there a story that ought to be heard
Life is not blind
Maybe someday
With a second ending
When the people are disturbed
Well they should be disturbed
Because there a lesson that really ought to be learned
The world is full of poets, we don’t need anymore
The world is full of singers, we don’t need anymore
The world is full of lovers we don’t need anymore

[SeanBateman]

huh, I opened this to post something, then went to look at a different forum and forgot what I was going to post.

[SeanBateman]

Oh shit, I remembered.

Anything by this dude.

[imapiratearg]

ow ow ow ow ow ow... :[

who is that?

[Gridgm]

i've done that once

i was moshing and ended up landing on a stage full of glass

big hurt

[Thrillho]

ow ow ow ow ow ow... :[

who is that?

That was Richie Edwards, from Manic Street Preachers, proving his 'credibility' in one of the stupidest incidents in music history.

[imapiratearg]

that makes me wince whenever i look at it.  there serveral reasons why i would never do such a thing.  but mostly because i have common sense and low pain tolerance.  :\

[amok]

proving his 'credibility' in one of the stupidest incidents in music history.

4EVER

The man was a genius, but also kind of a jackass at times.

[Thrillho]

Yes, yes he was.

[SeanBateman]

ow ow ow ow ow ow... :[

who is that?

That was Richie Edwards, from Manic Street Preachers, proving his 'credibility' in one of the stupidest incidents in music history.

Don't you mean most badass moments in music history?

[Thrillho]

No, I mean stupidest. A totally moronic, idiotic thing to do, and for no good reason.

[SeanBateman]

You don't get it.

[Thrillho]

Bullshit. Give me a single good reason for him to do that.

[KharBevNor]

1. Massively boosted the bands profile.
2. Probably really pissed off Steve Lamacq

Considering the Manic Street Preachers made no secret of the fact that their aim as a band was to become insanely huge and then burn out, it was basically one of the most cunning pieces of self-promotion in recent music history. It basically got them signed to Sony.

[SeanBateman]

Bullshit. Give me a single good reason for him to do that.

The fact that you are asking "for a good reason" proves to me that you don't get it.

[Thrillho]

Bullshit. Give me a single good reason for him to do that.

The fact that you are asking "for a good reason" proves to me that you don't get it.

Thanks to Khar for giving some decent reasoning instead of this charming cop-out answer.

I guess it did boost the band's profile quite substantially. But I still don't think that's a good enough reason to mutilate yourself, and the same goes for Marilyn Manson and Iggy Pop and all those people who intentionally cut themselves open onstage like pricks.

[Yakob]

Back On Topic!

The Beatles- Yer Blues

Yes I'm lonely wanna die
Yes I'm lonely wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh, girl you know the reason why

In the morning wanna die
In the evening wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh, girl you know the reason why

My mother was of the sky
My father was of the earth
But I am of the universe
And you know what it's worth
I'm lonely wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh, girl you know the reason why

The eagle picks my eye
The worm he licks my bone
I feel so suicidal
Just like Dylan's Mr. Jones
I'm Lonely wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh, girl you know the reason why

The black cloud crossed my mind
Blue mist round my soul
Feel so suicidal
Even hate my rock and roll wanna die
Yeah, wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh, girl you know the reason why

Yes, I'm lonely wanna die
Yes, I'm lonely wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh, girl you know the reason why
Yes, I'm lonely wanna die

[Thrillho]

I thought it was meant to be specifically self-laceration rather than suicide necessarily?

[Yakob]

Oh. Well, close enough.

[öde]

The Beatles were so emo.

[Gridgm]

I thought it was meant to be specifically self-laceration rather than suicide necessarily?

what she said

i love the fact they even had the precursers to emo haircuts

[Cerulaetas]

Sentenced - Cross My Heart and Hope to Die
Sentenced - Excuse Me While I Kill Myself

[Thrillho]

I thought it was meant to be specifically self-laceration rather than suicide necessarily?

what she said

i love the fact they even had the precursers to emo haircuts

Er...she?

[Yakob]

I was going to say something about it, but I wasn't 100% sure of your gender myself.

[Thrillho]

I can assure you that while I'm genuinely willing to sleep with anything that moves, I am a bloke.

[imapiratearg]

it's your avatar.  :\

words like butterflies, crash into my eyes
kamikaze flies, right into my eyes,
and words like razor blades, slice into my veins,
exposing all my pain, all that's left of me.

yeah, "Don't Forget To Set Your House On Fire Before You Crawl Into Bed" by The Junior Varsity.

i guess that actually would fall under the "emo" category??

[Scytale]

More emo Black Metal


I bid the body farewell
slumped down and cold history
a voice to drown out
taken in mine own hand
a blade, a rope, bitter poison
climb into the nil realm
beyond mortal pain
poison coursing through the veins
and all is end
dripping pain as fire
puncture this vessel with metal
drift out and onward
tenth rung of a ghost climb
from the murky depths
a final consciousness
slumped down there
cold and history
now comes invisible
poison courses through
veins on fire
a throat crushed closed
puncture this vessel with metal
flesh gash release.

Leviathan - At the Door to the Tenth Sub Level of Suicide

[Runs_With_Scissors]

Razorblade Salvation is the only one I can think of, and there really isn't many lyrics about cutting in it...plus it's kind of rap...

One major misconception about cutters though, is that they all want to kill themselves (and that they're all emo, but w/e). Take me for example. I am a cutter. I am not trying to kill myself, though my parents think I am. I am also not doing stupid shit like carving band names into my arms like that one guy. A lot of my friends are cutters too, or did it at one time, and they were'nt trying to kill themselves...so why in the hell do most of the song lyrics involving cutting (such as most of the ones posted) involve suicide? I am puzzled.