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the Final Fantasy series
mentospleen:
Final Fantasy 7 is one of the greatest RPG's of all time. That guy who was critizing it wasn't logical at all. Sephiroth was an imposing figure, and the music that went with him was easily able to insite fear in people. The easiest way to point out how wrong the critic is, is that fact that he said the music wasn't very good. FF7 had the greatest music of any videogame. That one can't be argued because it has been remade dozens of times, and all the music creators became hugely famous and succesful musicians in japan. The music was purely fantastic. That doesn't mean that other games don't have some better music, it just means that FF7 had the best music grouped together. The cut scenes were very good at getting across the story, much better than the fourty minute talk at the basketball court in FF8 (which was also good, but not great). FF7 also let you chose whether or not you wanted to have a story thrust upon you, it was good that you could chose whether or not to watch all those cutscenes at reddogs home. One of the best cutscenes was a very short one when you see a huge serpent that sephiroth impaled on a tree. Materia was great because it let your magic become stronger in much better ways than many of the other games allowed. Chocobo breeding... the golden chocobo was cool, that is all I have to say... also try to get across the serpent pond on foot without getting killed at the beginning of the game... it is possible. FF7 was cut short and was still much better than FF9. FF9 had one of the worst endings ever because the final boss was never talked about at all. I will admit that every hero character from FF7 onward including cloud was a massive douchebag. I need to get into the main story line of FF6 because I liked it alot. FF10 had a very bad story line and that "checkerboard" system for making your character better was total junk. The ending of FF10 was bad and the game's best attribute was blitzball if you got into it. I got the characters up to extremely high levels and it was pretty cool. I recently lost FF1 and 2 as I was playing them... it sucked! FF10-2 was actually a fun game. The story was absolute crap but it was still fun to play. The dresspheres were actually a pretty good system of abilities and the battle system was rather good. It is definately not an FF classic in any way, but it was fun. Oh well I know it is still cool to "be different" and hate on FF7 but it was a well made game.
zacha:
--- Quote from: Storm Rider on 22 Feb 2007, 18:25 ---I've stated before, 6 is the best Final Fantasy in the series. Easily in terms of storytelling and perhaps gameplay as well. I've never found a game with a story so emotionally affecting or characters so well fleshed-out. I'm playing through the GBA port right now, in fact. I'm on the Floating Continent.
I dunno if I'd bother ranking the Final Fantasies, but I can classify them.
Great Final Fantasies: 4, 6, 12
Good Final Fantasies: 1, 5, 7, 10
Bad Final Fantasies: 2, 8
N/A: 3 (barely played it), 9 (never played it), 10-2 (never played it), 11 (who the fuck cares, seriously?)
Also, anybody else not really like Tactics very much?
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To use your post as a template =)
Great Final Fantasies: 4, 6, 7, 8
Good Final Fantasies: 1, 2, 10
"Bad" Final Fantasies: 5
N/A: 3, 9, 10-2, 11, 12
To make it a little more elaborate:
1: Played it on the GBA and it was pretty good. I never had the time or will to finish it though.
2: Same as no. 1. Although I liked it a little more because of the story and characters.
3: Never played. Although Onion Kid must be the best name of a class ever in a FF
4: I love it. It has a solid story and even though it decides the team for you, almost every time you are given a solid team. The fixed teams makes it easer to tell the story IMO, (as they can and have to add/remove characters because of a reason).
5: Was pretty good. I was bored of the job system though... it took to long time to get good because of the job system.
6: A gem in the world of games. A good story with convincing characters. The best in this game is the esper system and the "lack" of a main character which made the game able to explore all the characters alone.
7: The one who introduced me to the FF series. Therefore a classic in my eyes. A good combat system and great characters, although the materia system made the characters not having a clear role in the battles, this made me a little dissapointed. (I mean, you could make Barret a mage and Aeris a fighter without loosing anything). The story still moves me and it's a great story and the interaction between the characters is what caught me.
8: Some odd systems (like junction and draw) made me a little disappointed with this game, especially as I loved the story, especially the twists. The weapon building and Triple Triad was a nice touch though. (To you who never finished it, the ending are worth it, even the stupid drawing system).
9: Never played it.
10: Played a short time at my friends but I liked the little I played there. Will probably buy it to the summer when I'm going to live at home again (with my brothers PS2 available)
10-2: A sequel to a FF? BLASHEMY! (Will probably never play it...)
11: Are against paytoplay games...
12: Never played, but my friend (who just bought it) said it was a great disappointment.
Tactics: Well. I don't like tactical RPG's...
ScrambledGregs:
--- Quote from: mentospleen on 18 Mar 2007, 00:37 ---Final Fantasy 7 is one of the greatest RPG's of all time. That guy who was critizing it wasn't logical at all. Sephiroth was an imposing figure, and the music that went with him was easily able to insite fear in people. The easiest way to point out how wrong the critic is, is that fact that he said the music wasn't very good. FF7 had the greatest music of any videogame. That one can't be argued because it has been remade dozens of times, and all the music creators became hugely famous and succesful musicians in japan. The music was purely fantastic.
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You're pretty much stating your opinion as absolute fact. I think that FF6 had the best music of any game ever, and FF7 is overrated because a bunch of people played it and it was their first RPG and they have fond memories. To say that the issue can't be argued is borderline arrogant.
mentospleen:
--- Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 18 Mar 2007, 11:21 ---
--- Quote from: mentospleen on 18 Mar 2007, 00:37 ---Final Fantasy 7 is one of the greatest RPG's of all time. That guy who was critizing it wasn't logical at all. Sephiroth was an imposing figure, and the music that went with him was easily able to insite fear in people. The easiest way to point out how wrong the critic is, is that fact that he said the music wasn't very good. FF7 had the greatest music of any videogame. That one can't be argued because it has been remade dozens of times, and all the music creators became hugely famous and succesful musicians in japan. The music was purely fantastic.
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You're pretty much stating your opinion as absolute fact. I think that FF6 had the best music of any game ever, and FF7 is overrated because a bunch of people played it and it was their first RPG and they have fond memories. To say that the issue can't be argued is borderline arrogant.
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I in no way meant to seem arrogant. I merely meant that the guy who was arguing that FF7 had horrible music was not being logical and must at least respect the opinion of a large musical community that believe FF7 had some of the greatest music for a videogame. I actually meant to right one of the greatest soundtracks of any videogame. I merely meant that the music has revieved quite a bit more attention than most other games. I think it has to be agreed upon also that FF7 at least rank up at the top because the opinion of mass amounts of people do matter. I also believe that FF6 is very good and I would like to finish it and see how it ranks.
Dimmukane:
--- Quote from: Storm Rider on 04 Mar 2007, 22:03 ---Man, the Hunts were probably my least favorite part of FFXII, just because they required so much fucking backtracking and took an annoyingly long time to track down. Rogue Galaxy's version of the same concept was executed much better, because since you can teleport to any savepoint in the entire game once you've visited it once, getting to the hunts (or as they're called in that game, 'quarries') is easy, you just need a special item to lure them out and then they work like a normal boss fight.
Besides guys, I already said 6 was the best game in the series in like, the third post of the thread. It's surprising how wrong so many of you are.
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Having beaten the game (Rogue Galaxy, I'm only halfway through FFXII, finally got past that stuck bit) and all the hunts, I can safely say that at higher levels, some of those fights can get incredibly easy. I've finished a few in less than 10 seconds. The hard part is finding the item to unlock it...and I wish you could go back and do them again (for lowered xp that's still more than most of the other enemies in the game). The Raft To The Underworld one was fucking cool.
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