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0bsessions:
I never had the innordinate amount of trouble some of my friends reported with certain bosses in Chrono Trigger. I managed to finish it in about fifteen hours my first time, through.

As for the length mention with the latter two, that's not meant as a knock in the slightest. I felt pretty much the same as you. Until I played Suikoden V, Suikoden III was far and away my favorite RPG since Final Fantasy VI. Then, once I'd finished Suikoden V, I moved on to Final Fantasy XII, which I actually preferred to the Suikoden V.

Everything about III delighted me and led to a great deal of my disappointment in IV. One of my primary interests in the Suikoden series is all the little connections to previous installments. When IV came around and all it really had was Vicki, Jeanne and Ted, it lost my interest in the awful play mechanics. It had so many missed opportunities on characters they could've thrown in. Neclord and Yuber are both immortal and known to be active with Landy Windy at the time. III had me going for every single minute, especially when Luc was revealed. I always did think he was a total dick. Luc's scenario went a long way to giving me understanding into his character, though. I loved the three story system for the fact it gave an unprecedented amount of characterization to so many characters with the shifting focus. The only thing that would've made it better would be some Flik and Victor (With that in mind, where the fuck is the Star Dragon Sword lately?). V was even better somehow. Had the classic feel of the first two down to a science.

Final Fantasy XII bored the Hell out of me for the first few hours, but the second Balthier shows up, it kicks into gear and doesn't stop. I'm chomping at the bit for Revenant Wings.

ScrambledGregs:
Suikoden IV isn't just the worst game in the series, it's also a bad game in general. Other series, you can point to certain entries as not your favorite, but they aren't bad games necessarily. Suikoden IV, though, is just a bad game.

Manix:
9 remains my favorite FF! I just loved the game. It had.

-Great, likable characters.
-A card game I liked.
-Chocobo Hot and cold game
-Steiner and Beatrix (one of my favorite RPG Romances)
-a great world to place the game in, I still love the city of Lindblum
-too much more to mention

As far as 8 is concerned, I didn't think it was bad, but I could never really get myself to really like most of the main characters (Like you guys, I thought Quistis was pretty hot, but there where times, especially around the time she was removed as a teacher, that I thought she was too mopey, and self pitying). But I will say that if they ever make a game of Laguna's adventures, I will be first in line for it. Laguna was my favorite character in it, and I actually liked him and his friends far more than the main cast. I think my problem with the main cast was crystallized by the orphanage background, which came absolutely out of nowhere, and felt extremely forced. Graphins wise it was good to see Square trying new things, but I think they went too far to soon.

As for Squall, I'm reminded of something I heard once. One of 7's maor selling points was the idea that Cloud was a grim loner, with a dark nature. He wasn't. Outside of him being rather rude to Avalanche in the beginning, he was actually a pretty nice guy through most of the game. Someone once said that Squall is what they were originally shooting for with Cloud.

ScrambledGregs:
Actually they made Cloud and Squall to appeal to the sub-group of men who are loners who don't say much and hate themselves and humanity, and would be cured if they could get some action, only they're too busy being misanthropic, ego-centric to realize some girl actively wants their nuts--sometimes even more than one.

At least that was my impression.

zacha:

--- Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 12 May 2007, 17:21 ---Actually they made Cloud and Squall to appeal to the sub-group of men who are loners who don't say much and hate themselves and humanity, and would be cured if they could get some action, only they're too busy being misanthropic, ego-centric to realize some girl actively wants their nuts--sometimes even more than one.

At least that was my impression.

--- End quote ---
Oh. Damn... I love those games and Cloud and Squall alike. Cloud because of the guilt he put on himself made him seem so human and Squall just because of he was such a moron =P (I do NOT identify myself with any of them though).
But to cite Squall...
"...whatever"

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