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This Ain't A Console War, It's a Genocide (Sales Figures! Ooooh!)

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ackblom12:
I think what Ozymandias meant by his post, was that you sounded like you came in here to troll and tell those of us who are impressed with the Wii that we are intellectually on the same level as that of a mentally retarded individual. When you come into a discussion thread to actually discuss just try to use less abrasive language, or at least try and make it sound less like your calling anyone an idiot.

As for it having so few non Nintendo titles as exclusives, we already made our points about that a few comments up and it's pretty easy to confirm them with a simple Google search.

As for asking us to talk about how it's superior? That's a pretty silly rebuttal to make, since he didn't say anything at all about it being a better system than the PS3, 360 or PC. He just called you out on what he saw as you being an ass.

Chrasstor:
Bah... I didn't say that you had to be mentally challenged to enjoy the Wii... I just said, that the only person I know who enjoys playing the wii is mentally challenged. I'm not saying it's like that everywhere, in fact, he's the only person that I'm friends with that has a Wii... I probably should've clarified that I only have 1 friend that has a next-gen system other than him, too. Most of my friends hardly play video games at all.

Anyway, I've got nothing against people who love their Wii... All I'm saying is, it's not ahead in sales because it's the superior system. There's 1000000 things that could be debated that would sway the superiority towards the PS3/360(same goes for Wii, however). The only reason the Wii has that much of a lead on them is because of how it plays(the novelty/gimmick w/e you want to call it factor), it's low price compared to the other systems helps too.

Sorry, I'm just sick of hearing "THA WII IZ THA NEXT BIG THING IN GAMING! TOTALLY REVOLUTIONIZES GAMING FOR THE BETTER!" when that's not the case at all. I've played it, it's a nice little system... But it's not that big a deal.

My apologies for coming on a little hostile.

Ozymandias:
I love my 360. I think Microsoft did absolutely everything right with the 360's design. XBL is the single best online gaming service in the entire history of video games. That's not even hyperbole. No one, neither on console nor PC, has ever managed the service Microsoft brought to the table.

But they also took no risks with the 360. XBL was an extension of the service they already had on the XBox. The controller was a modification of the S-Controller, redesigned to perfecton. Everything was just improvement of known technology.

Sony took a risk on Blu-ray and are suffering the consequences. Nintendo took a risk on control and are reaping the rewards.

I never played Zelda on GCN, so I enjoyed the Wii version as much as I could (I thought it was rubbish for reasons completely unrelated to the controls). I can't seem to get into RE4, but I haven't tried very hard. I thought Super Paper Mario, however, was one of the best games I've played in a while, though thats also unrelated to controls.

I don't think anyone's quite grasped the full potential of the device. I think the minigame games are similar to the ten trillion minigames put on the DS when it first game out. Simple, fun ideas for the controls separate from having to put a plot or any complexity around it. The DS is only recently being used to full potential, I think.

Metroid Prime 3 will be the first full Nintendo game made specifically for the console. I think that's the first appropriate place to start fully judging the control sysem on its advantages and disadvantages.

Chrasstor:

--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 26 Jul 2007, 21:04 ---I love my 360. I think Microsoft did absolutely everything right with the 360's design. XBL is the single best online gaming service in the entire history of video games. That's not even hyperbole. No one, neither on console nor PC, has ever managed the service Microsoft brought to the table.

But they also took no risks with the 360. XBL was an extension of the service they already had on the XBox. The controller was a modification of the S-Controller, redesigned to perfecton. Everything was just improvement of known technology.

Sony took a risk on Blu-ray and are suffering the consequences. Nintendo took a risk on control and are reaping the rewards.

I never played Zelda on GCN, so I enjoyed the Wii version as much as I could (I thought it was rubbish for reasons completely unrelated to the controls). I can't seem to get into RE4, but I haven't tried very hard. I thought Super Paper Mario, however, was one of the best games I've played in a while, though thats also unrelated to controls.

I don't think anyone's quite grasped the full potential of the device. I think the minigame games are similar to the ten trillion minigames put on the DS when it first game out. Simple, fun ideas for the controls separate from having to put a plot or any complexity around it. The DS is only recently being used to full potential, I think.

Metroid Prime 3 will be the first full Nintendo game made specifically for the console. I think that's the first appropriate place to start fully judging the control sysem on its advantages and disadvantages.

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Oddly enough, I do agree with you here. But the thing is, why should we care if they're being daring? I mean, I'm for anti-conformity as the next person... But if something works, why not just improve on that until kingdom come? There are some things that revolutionize gaming and are needed... (Ex: From 2D -> 3D) I just personally don't think the whole remote thing is needed for gaming. It's a nice little add-on... But in my opinion, it will never-EVER make or break a console.

Heck, if it was some matrix virtual-reality shit, that would be needed revolution. Until then, I'd rather we stick to Evolution.

Just my opinion.

PostScript- From my experience, the fun I've received from trying to play RE is comparable to the pain you'd receive from fucking a meat grinder. Don't touch this one for the Wii(pick it up in a bargain bin for NGC or PS2, you'll have a blast), despite what IGN says. Honestly, one second you're strafing away from a zombie, the next you're suddenly looking at the ceiling. The controls are terrible on this compared to the NGC's. Zelda's controls weren't bad, but, again, I'm not the biggest Wiimote-Nunchuck fanatic.

Modification: I'm renting the Wii again come Smash Bros. Brawl. You can't not love a SB game.

Johnny C:
Dude I haven't had as much fun playing a game in a long time as I did the first ten minutes playing Resident Evil 4. Motherfuckers cross me and I end them.

However you have a point in one spot, and that is that sales do not equal quality. Millions of people saw Norbit.

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