Topic: Gwen Stefani- The Sweet EScape. (Read 27471 times)

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #50 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 15:05 »

That comic further proves that I am not an indie rock hipster, because my income sucks and I am a failure.

Anyway, I have nothing of value to add, other than that I sure miss No Doubt all of a sudden. And I don't really like No Doubt, since they are the only band in history other than Sublime who somehow made ska even more irritating than it already was.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #51 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 15:09 »

Sublime had some of the only ska-influenced songs I can stand. I'd rather listen to "Wrong Way" than anything by Reel Big Fish any day.

And as overplayed as it is, "What I Got" is actually a rather good pop tune.

hihowareyou · « **Reply #52 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 16:01 »

on the Kinsella tangent:

it's a shame Tim hardly ever gets any recognition for his music, he always seems to be in the shadow of big (little?) brother.

fish across face · « **Reply #53 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 16:06 »

FWIW, I only brought up rockism in the context of helping Spinless to answer his question as to why some people like Gwen Stefani. Johnny C made lots of good points about the false dichotomy between rockism and popism.

RyanT · « **Reply #54 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 16:54 »

To me, TV on the Radio sounds like if Andre 5000 just forgot how to sing. My roommates at school this last year loved them, and I couldn't stand them. I would rather listen to Gwen Stefani or Tim Kinsella in a heartbeat.

I think the thing I've always loved about indie music is that do-it-yourself attitude. The best bands are always a bunch of average joes from small town Montana or some other obscure place. A couple friends who happened to be mediocre musicians got together and just played. And the thing is, their sheer lack of formal musical training just happened to create something new. The prime example to me is Joy Division. They didn't know a thing about music and what happened? They helped pioneer the whole bass playing the main line thing. I just can't help but see that whole idea slowly fading away.

Skibas_clavicle · « **Reply #55 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 18:07 »

Quote from: Ishotdanieljohnston on 11 Jun 2007, 17:55

Is this a bizzaro universe or something? Marylin Manson and Gwen Stefani threads? Next it will be Britney spears... "no seriously guys she's some great musician". Please.

1) Don't be a douchebag to people who've been here over three years.
2) Don't be a douchebag to people with great music taste.
3) Don't be a douchebag to people who are clearly being facetious.
4) Don't be a douchebag to people who can out douchebag you with their eyes closed.
5) Don't be a douchebag.

Johnny C · « **Reply #56 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 18:15 »

Quote from: Skibas_clavicle on 12 Jun 2007, 18:07

4) Don't be a douchebag to people who can out douchebag you with their eyes closed.

It's true! He can douchebag you into the next county if you aren't careful!

valley_parade · « **Reply #57 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 18:22 »

He douchebagged me to west yorkshire once!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #58 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 18:23 »

Quote from: Dirk Hopeless on 12 Jun 2007, 12:09

I am sorry you dudes can only like pop if it is deemed acceptable by whoever, (i.e the new Justin Timberlake)

To be fair, Justin Timberlake fucking sucks ass as well, so that's alright.

See, thing is, not to resurrect the debate, but I think this brings up the reason popism sucks: the idea that pop should be given a break because it's 'just pop, lol', as if there doesn't actually have to be any sort of quality in the music that dominates our mass culture. It maybe fun to dance to sometimes (I disagree), but in the end, it's like comparing Uwe Boll and Francis Coppola. It all stinks of deliberate contrarianism. "You fools! You're deluded! Neutral Milk Hotel is not good music! You can bearly even shake your hips to it!"

Though I kind of like T.a.T.u as well. Whoever the dinky little russian faux-lesbians are who do the singing they have nice voices. I think maybe a huge part of my inability to like pop centers around my hatred of a certain type of American accent in music. Oh, and hip-hop.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #59 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 18:24 »

I heard he once douchebagged a hole to China! Then he douchebagged the Emperor so hard he had massive heart failure.

Then he was decapitated and his head was put on a pike for killing the beloved leader. It's a sad story.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #60 on:** 12 Jun 2007, 21:39 »

Quote from: Dirk Hopeless on 12 Jun 2007, 12:48

It dropped when I was either a junior or senior in High School, making it 3 or 4 years old.

Gwen Stefani herself is old. She's like, pushing fourty. I know that's completely irrelevant and random, and I don't know what I'm trying to accomplish by posting this. But she's old.

Ben yayayayayayayay · « **Reply #61 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 11:43 »

Un! Deux! Trois! Dis: Miroir Noir!

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #62 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 12:27 »

Quote from: RyanT on 12 Jun 2007, 16:54

To me, TV on the Radio sounds like if Andre 5000 just forgot how to sing.

That just means that you don't like them, and perhaps that you have little knowledge of what constitutes a technical ability to sing.

TV On the Radio provably have vocals that are technically talented. You may not like them, but it's ignorant of musical theory to say that Tunde Adebimpe "can't sing", just as it would be ignorant to say that Steve Vai "can't play guitar", whether you like how he plays it or not.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #63 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 12:28 »

Quote from: Skibas_clavicle on 12 Jun 2007, 18:07

Quote from: Ishotdanieljohnston on 11 Jun 2007, 17:55
Is this a bizzaro universe or something? Marylin Manson and Gwen Stefani threads? Next it will be Britney spears... "no seriously guys she's some great musician". Please.

1) Don't be a douchebag to people who've been here over three years.
2) Don't be a douchebag to people with great music taste.
3) Don't be a douchebag to people who are clearly being facetious.
4) Don't be a douchebag to people who can out douchebag you with their eyes closed.
5) Don't be a douchebag.

Love you too, baby.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #64 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 12:34 »

Quote from: RyanT on 12 Jun 2007, 16:54

To me, TV on the Radio sounds like if Andre 5000 just forgot how to sing.

Quote from: RyanT on 12 Jun 2007, 16:54

if Andre 5000 just forgot how to sing.

Quote from: RyanT on 12 Jun 2007, 16:54

Andre 5000

Quote from: RyanT on 12 Jun 2007, 16:54

Andre 5000

imapiratearg · « **Reply #65 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 13:21 »

Dirk, does your avatar have Paris Hilton crying in it?

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #66 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 13:50 »

So yeah, Gwen Stefani sucks, and I don't care how many critics and hipsters try to rehabilitate Justin Timberlake because he sucks, too. I'd even go so far as to say the only mainstream pop act I can enjoy (note that I said enjoy, and not "stand to listen to") is Outkast.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #67 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 16:25 »

First, I don't think you could even classify Outkast as a "pop" act, at least not in the sense that Timberlake and Stefani are "pop" acts. Whether they're successful at it or not, Outkast definitely are trying to be more than just a radio-hit machine.

Second, if you do choose to define Outkast as "pop" music, then I think you'd have to throw REM, U2, the White Stripes, etc. in there too - in other words, everything that's on a major label and that releases singles meant for radio airplay.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #68 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 18:34 »

Don't give him the satisfaction.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #69 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 19:54 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 13 Jun 2007, 16:25

Second, if you do choose to define Outkast as "pop" music, then I think you'd have to throw REM, U2, the White Stripes, etc. in there too

To be fair, all those pretty much suck. REM had some good albums 'back in the day', so hipsters tell me, U2 are the most over-rated thing ever to live, The White Stripes too, though that video with the pyramids inside the pyramids was kinda cool, and, er, no idea who Outkast are. Heard of them I'm sure. I'm sure they fucking suck.

RyanT · « **Reply #70 on:** 13 Jun 2007, 20:38 »

Did I really type Andre 5000? Sorry about that. Maybe I got Powerman 5000 mixed in my head or something.

There goes my cred. [/sarc]

Scytale · « **Reply #71 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 00:28 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 13 Jun 2007, 19:54

no idea who Outkast are. Heard of them I'm sure. I'm sure they fucking suck.

I think they are that band who did the "Sorry Miss Johnson" song a while ago, yeah they were pretty crap i think they've fallen off the face of the earth now.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #72 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 00:55 »

this thread

Johnny C · « **Reply #73 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 01:07 »

Oh for fuck's sake people nobody's even trying with Outkast.

It's "Ms. Jackson," damnit.

Scytale · « **Reply #74 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 01:55 »

Yeah thats it, one of those Australian "rock" bands, Jet or the Vines or something covered it a few years ago it was all over the radio...

fish across face · « **Reply #75 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 03:30 »

... and it was a single from the 4th of their 7 platinum-selling albums.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #76 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 07:08 »

Yeah, except where did they sell the vast majority of those albums?

I'm gonna make a wild stab and say it wasn't in the countries me and Scytale live in.

Also I just googled them. Whoa. I didn't know there were so many genres of hip-hop. Well, the more you know, the less you care.

Johnny C · « **Reply #77 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 07:56 »

Thrillho · « **Reply #78 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 08:26 »

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 13 Jun 2007, 13:50

So yeah, Gwen Stefani sucks, and I don't care how many critics and hipsters try to rehabilitate Justin Timberlake because he sucks, too. I'd even go so far as to say the only mainstream pop act I can enjoy (note that I said enjoy, and not "stand to listen to") is Outkast.

Outkast are not mainstream pop. Outkast are hip-hop/rap/whatever other genre they dabble in to accentuate their work. They have pushed the boundaries of their areas of music a hell of a lot; to just call them mainstream pop - particularly since many people will only know 'Ms. Jackson' onwards, or worse, 'Hey Ya' onwards - is a bit insulting to some visionaries of the genre.

...yet looking down it appears some people have beat me to saying this.

Scytale · « **Reply #79 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 09:19 »

I have to admit Ms Jackson is the only song I've heard of theres, thanks for clarifying.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #80 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 09:23 »

For what it's worth, REM haven't made a good album since 1991. NOTE: I said album, not song. At this point REM's losing streak is well over a decade long, with each new release being hailed as "a return to form" by either Rolling Stone or some fucking British magazine who have lost touch with what makes good music let alone a good REM album.

Kai · « **Reply #81 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 09:41 »

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #82 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 09:57 »

Yeah, what Kai and Tommy said.

Also, Monster. I don't give a shit what anyone says, it's a solid album.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #83 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 11:23 »

REM are the ones with the weedy looking bald singer right?

Nah, I kid, kind of. I've only heard two songs of theirs and one was because Graveworm covered it, that was 'Losing My Religion' and it wasn't all that bad. Preferred Graveworms version, but I DID hear it first. The other one was the one they released quite recently (well, last few years) 'It's Been a Bad Day' or summat (only heard it, dunno the title). That one was pretty boring but not as actively offensive as say, The Arctic Monkeys. I suppose to be fair I shouldn't dismiss them as crap off having heard two songs by them and both of them being alright but they're pretty low down on my list of bands to check out.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #84 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 11:34 »

It's hard to be as actively offensive as the Arctic Monkeys without having the band actually show up and piss on your floor.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #85 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 12:02 »

I hear Seth Putnam spits in a childs face every time he hears their name mentioned.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #86 on:** 14 Jun 2007, 17:23 »

I was generalizing, but specifically I did mean that Automatic For The People is the last great album they ever made. The two you guys have mentioned are OK and have some really great songs, but as ALBUMS?? No no no.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #87 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 11:04 »

Rockist.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #88 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 11:12 »

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 14 Jun 2007, 17:23

The two you guys have mentioned are OK and have some really great songs, but as FRISBEES?? No no no.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #89 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 12:20 »

I really love Automatic for The People, Monster and New Adventures in Hi-Fi, i recently listened to Up and liked it a lot. There were a few bad songs and the sequencing is all off, but it is a good album.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #90 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 12:37 »

I haven't given Up a chance since it released. Perhaps I will now.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #91 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 13:14 »

I read a blog once that did a review of Up and reaarraged the track so it sounded better, iwish i could rememebr which blog it was.

Thrillho · « **Reply #92 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 13:50 »

It's ironic that my favourite REM song was the first release post-Berry, namely 'The Great Beyond.' But then I'm not much of an REM scholar.

Liz · « **Reply #93 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 19:49 »

"The Sweet Escape" is on the music loop that plays at both of my jobs. So basically I hear it once or twice and hour, all day long.

They can check me into the institution at any time.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #94 on:** 16 Jun 2007, 20:41 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 16 Jun 2007, 13:50

It's ironic that my favourite REM song was the first release post-Berry, namely 'The Great Beyond.' But then I'm not much of an REM scholar.

I really like thast song, it is not my favouritwe as trhat title belongs to'fall on me' or 'finest worksong' or 'me in honey'. but it is a ´pretty sweet song

Gryff · « **Reply #95 on:** 17 Jun 2007, 23:48 »

I think Yummy is a pretty good song guys. That's Gwen Stefani, not REM.

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