Topic: The Guitar Topic (Read 1982635 times)

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #2400 on:** 26 May 2008, 22:22 »

Ratatat?

get an e-bow

DMart · « **Reply #2401 on:** 27 May 2008, 04:12 »

speaking of e-bows, they don't work on basses, do they?

Chad K. · « **Reply #2402 on:** 27 May 2008, 08:03 »

Quote from: DMart on 27 May 2008, 04:12

speaking of e-bows, they don't work on basses, do they?

Indeed they do. I've seen the guy from Shiner use one. Here's the key- heavy distortion, chorus pedal and ebow. You also have to get near your amp so it starts to feed back a little.

sean · « **Reply #2403 on:** 27 May 2008, 10:19 »

The E-Bow is designed for guitar use, but if you alter the way you play with it, it works for bass. It just requires a bit more effort and creativity.

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #2404 on:** 27 May 2008, 11:42 »

I use the ebow on everything - it's even fun on mandolin. The problem with using it on bass is that it takes a while to start vibrating the string because they're bigger. It will still work though.

the Goat · « **Reply #2405 on:** 27 May 2008, 15:33 »

When I saw Ratatat live, they used a volume pedal to get that swelling sound. There's probably a lot of different ways to get that effect, that seems like the easiest.

jeph · « **Reply #2406 on:** 27 May 2008, 18:20 »

The main advantage of the eBow is infinite sustain, not the volume swells. You can do those just with the knobs on your guitar with practice.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2407 on:** 27 May 2008, 21:23 »

A bit late (college bleh), but nice SG Pat. Pity you got it just in time to find another you wanted more.

Something is wrong with my friend, he is planning on getting a tele... but I feel obliged to make sure he gets a decent one. Are the MIM Teles the ones that fender just calls standards?

jeph · « **Reply #2408 on:** 28 May 2008, 01:42 »

Yes. Unless it specifically says "American" in the title or costs over $1200 it was made in Mexico or Japan.

Spluff · « **Reply #2409 on:** 28 May 2008, 02:21 »

It should say on the headstock where it was made, shouldn't it?

godinpants · « **Reply #2410 on:** 28 May 2008, 03:00 »

Coinciding rather nicely with all this Ebow talk here.
I bought one last week, and it is pretty awesome.

Yes it works on bass, but it sounds a metric fucktonne better on a guitar.

I was playing around with a loop pedal infact, and came up with this awesome atmosphere, so i plugged into my computer and started overdubbing aswell.
The result is the track "oceanic abyss" on http://www.myspace.com/amphibiotic
There's only two layers of guitar there.
The looping loop, and my overdub recorded in one pass.

jeph · « **Reply #2411 on:** 28 May 2008, 16:44 »

Quote from: Spluff on 28 May 2008, 02:21

It should say on the headstock where it was made, shouldn't it?

Yeah but you gotta look close.

Patrick · « **Reply #2412 on:** 29 May 2008, 03:16 »

Convenient alteration to my summer plans: since the friends who I am working for/renting from have let an entire family move into the apartment I was going to be moving into, I do not have to pay anything for groceries or rent. Long story short, I'ma have something like $5k to fuck with at the end of the summer, no expenses at all.

I already have a good idea where a good chunk of it is going to go. The rather diminutive rest of it is going to go toward sk00lin. I have my priorities.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2413 on:** 29 May 2008, 03:39 »

That had better be something like a Les Paul Standard, otherwise there is something wrong with your priorities.

Wait, it is a Jag or a Jazzmaster. That's my guess.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2414 on:** 29 May 2008, 05:22 »

i.e. inferior in every way to the Gibson SG you already have/had and inferior to the Les Paul you could have.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2415 on:** 29 May 2008, 14:53 »

But, of course, he could get both those guitars for the price of one Les Paul Standard.

I think the Les Paul in cherry finish has to be one of the most beautiful guitars there is. Any disagreement? I promise not to feed you to the sharks.

Lummer · « **Reply #2416 on:** 29 May 2008, 15:32 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 29 May 2008, 14:53

But, of course, he could get both those guitars for the price of one Les Paul Standard.

I think the Les Paul in cherry finish has to be one of the most beautiful guitars there is. Any disagreement? I promise not to feed you to the sharks.

The Les Paul Custom model looks absolutely gorgeous in the Wine Red or Oxblood finish, so yeah. Seconded.

Spluff · « **Reply #2417 on:** 29 May 2008, 22:49 »

Get a Firebird, or a flying V over a LP. Everybody has LPs.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2418 on:** 29 May 2008, 22:51 »

So? They still look good. Firebirds are like less sharp x-plorers, right? I have not seen many people at all using those, though I think I saw one in the video for Exodus' Good day to die.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2419 on:** 29 May 2008, 23:50 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 29 May 2008, 14:53

But, of course, he could get both those guitars for the price of one Les Paul Standard.

I think the Les Paul in cherry finish has to be one of the most beautiful guitars there is. Any disagreement? I promise not to feed you to the sharks.

Black finish. Gorgeous. <3

Bearer · « **Reply #2420 on:** 30 May 2008, 07:31 »

I can personally vouch for how awesome Firebirds are. You will not regret it, ever. Get it immediately!

Tehz · « **Reply #2421 on:** 30 May 2008, 11:56 »

Agreed; if I could own any Gibson, it would definitely be a Firebird.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2422 on:** 30 May 2008, 19:37 »

Gibsons are pretty great in general, but out of all of them why get a Firebird

ledhendrix · « **Reply #2423 on:** 30 May 2008, 19:50 »

Yeah if I was to get a Gibson it would either be a Les Paul or an ES335. Thats if i was to get a Gibson, why would i get a Gibson when i have my Telecaster?

Mars · « **Reply #2424 on:** 30 May 2008, 19:55 »

Quote from: MadassAlex on 30 May 2008, 19:37

Gibsons are pretty great in general, but out of all of them why get a Firebird

Because they're awesome?

Johnny Winter plays a Firebird. If it's good enough for Johnny, it's good enough for you.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2425 on:** 30 May 2008, 19:57 »

But Tony Iommi plays an SG.

Are SGs not good enough for you

Spluff · « **Reply #2426 on:** 30 May 2008, 19:58 »

He's already got a SG, iirc.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2427 on:** 30 May 2008, 20:06 »

Patrick, or Mars?

I know Patrick has a sweet-ass SG due to all the collective wanking we've been doing over them in general.

Spluff · « **Reply #2428 on:** 30 May 2008, 20:10 »

Patrick.

the Goat · « **Reply #2429 on:** 30 May 2008, 20:13 »

I think that Firebirds look pretty bitching, and everyone already has an SG or a Les Paul. I personally always get a little thrill when I see people onstage with unconventional gear: Hagstrom guitars, Road Amp heads, etc. I get the same thrill seeing Firebirds, they're pretty rare.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2430 on:** 30 May 2008, 20:39 »

Quote from: ledhendrix on 30 May 2008, 19:50

Yeah if I was to get a Gibson it would either be a Les Paul or an ES335. Thats if i was to get a Gibson, why would i get a Gibson when i have my Telecaster?

Because Gibsons are awesome and Teles are ugly.

I suppose I could get a firebird, but they are more expensive than a faded special, and the SG looks best of almost all guitars, only ones that have it beat are the cherry Les Paul, over-the-top shiny fancy guitars, and the Giger Ibanezes.

I actually haven't ever heard a firebird's sound, I assume it will be in the same ballpark as most gibsons, yeah?

Bearer · « **Reply #2431 on:** 30 May 2008, 21:04 »

Well, my Firebird has this really bluesy crunch to it. I haven't had the fortune to seriously mess around with any other real gibsons, but I imagine it's at least fairly unique to that whole family. I've got it going through a Fender Twin tube amp, and it just screams. I love it.

Anyway...

Hey hey, Cigar-box guitar update! I've added a pickup! it's an old white Dimarzio single coil I found in my dad's old gig bag. I've got no clue where it's from, but I decided to put it into Ciggy (it's about halfway between where the neck and mid pickups would be on a strat). based off of the tes I just did (mechanical with only one string) it sounds pretty bitchin. Got a real nice tone if you can get past the fuzz, but I suppose when I solder it in there that'll help. Right now it's going directly from pickup to output, but I have an old volume pot lying around, should I throw that on there for good measure?

Mars · « **Reply #2432 on:** 30 May 2008, 22:54 »

Quote from: MadassAlex on 30 May 2008, 19:57

But Tony Iommi plays an SG.

Are SGs not good enough for you

I have a cheap SG knock off. I can't afford a real SG because I'm poor, but the cheap copy has it's advantages. Mainly that I can mod the shit out of it without stressing about the fact that I'm messing with a Gibson.

I have nothing against Teles specifically except that they don't suit my style. As a blues player I suppose I should be getting a strat, but everyone plays a strat and I have a pathological aversion to doing what everyone else does.

If I had the means I'd get a Firebird in two seconds. It'd be one, except that I'm not a teenager anymore and I'm slowing down.

ledhendrix · « **Reply #2433 on:** 31 May 2008, 04:41 »

I play a lot of blues and teles have got an excellent tone for it. Muddy Waters anyone?

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #2434 on:** 31 May 2008, 05:36 »

Page did all of Zeppelin's worthwhile songs on Telecasters and Danelectros.

diablo_man · « **Reply #2435 on:** 31 May 2008, 08:04 »

ive heard the firebirds look described as the Explorer for children, all sharp edges removed.

i am loving the gibby sg special, great finish and i love the way the beveling looks close up, but i still think it is one of the more ugle guitar shapes

valley_parade · « **Reply #2436 on:** 31 May 2008, 09:14 »

I've never heard them described that way, but couldn't you just as well say Explorers are the kindergarten scissors to BC Rich's hedgetrimmers?

(stop sucking at life, BC Rich)

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2437 on:** 31 May 2008, 09:43 »

Yeah seriously. I guess they know their audience?

valley_parade · « **Reply #2438 on:** 31 May 2008, 09:44 »

"people who like really pointy things"?

diablo_man · « **Reply #2439 on:** 31 May 2008, 23:16 »

they do make some really good guitars, that have been played by non metal people. some that even look good when they arent trying too hard. ill see if i can find a few pics

holy ostentatious, but nice if you are into that

Spluff · « **Reply #2440 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 03:08 »

Those guitars make baby Jesus cry.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2441 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 06:35 »

Yeah, those didn't really help your point much.

sean · « **Reply #2442 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 08:00 »

The second one is god awful. I don't think the first one's body is as bad, but it has the worst fret board I have ever seen.

diablo_man · « **Reply #2443 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 11:38 »

well, yeah, that was the only pic of that guitar, but yes horrible neck. i actually like the second ones shape, i think slash played that shape for quite a while(not that that makes it good, just fyi)
here is his signature one

i must be weird but i really like this body shape

an one of their super strats

im not even really a fan of bc rich, but i do like some of their models

greenMonkey · « **Reply #2444 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 14:22 »

Yesterday I saw what might be my ultimate guitar. '73 Tele Thinline in black w/ humbuckers and a Bigsby tremolo. I cried with joy when I saw it, then cried in sadness when I saw the price tag: $3699. There was also a rather nice lawsuit Ibanez Les Paul, but it too was expensive (though less so than the Tele).

Patrick · « **Reply #2445 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 16:38 »

I will never buy another Gibson in my life unless it's an ES-335. Fuck Gibson. They don't know how to make a single-piece neck with an angled headstock for shit unless you feel like paying $4k for it.

A Fender is an instrument you can buy, set up once, and play it for 50 years, and it will never break. And it only gets prettier the more of the nitro finish you rub off with normal wear.

The "relic" Fenders piss me off though. They don't even put the buckle rash on there. What kind of shit is that?

Bearer · « **Reply #2446 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 18:25 »

Ok, I'm going to ask this here.

On my cigarbox baby, I have one pickup wired directly into the output jack. I didn't think I'd need to ground it (wouldn't it already be grounded?), but there's a lot of noise coming out of it.

I'm thinking I should just throw in the volume pot I have lying around on it just just so I have somewhere to ground it (the underside of the bridge as well I guess). Any thoughts?

Mars · « **Reply #2447 on:** 01 Jun 2008, 20:27 »

Quote from: ledhendrix on 31 May 2008, 04:41

I play a lot of blues and teles have got an excellent tone for it. Muddy Waters anyone?

I suppose my phrasing was unclear. My being a blues player and Teles not suiting my style were two unrelated thoughts.

I thought about getting a BC Rich, but I was afraid I'd somehow end up poking someone's eye out.

I actually like the finish on that Slash signature. If I could get that on a guitar that isn't quite so BITCHIN R0KKIN I'd be set.

jeph · « **Reply #2448 on:** 02 Jun 2008, 01:20 »

Quote from: Bearer on 01 Jun 2008, 18:25

Ok, I'm going to ask this here.

On my cigarbox baby, I have one pickup wired directly into the output jack. I didn't think I'd need to ground it (wouldn't it already be grounded?), but there's a lot of noise coming out of it.

I'm thinking I should just throw in the volume pot I have lying around on it just just so I have somewhere to ground it (the underside of the bridge as well I guess). Any thoughts?

Nope, you still need to ground it. Underside of the bridge, Fender-style, is the easiest way to do this.

Another thing to reduce noise is to shield everything (pickup cavity, anywhere you put volume/tone knobs, etc). Carvin and Warmoth both sell shielding tape that makes this wicked easy. I recommend this since you're using a single-coil that is prone to 60-cycle hum anyway.

jeph · « **Reply #2449 on:** 02 Jun 2008, 01:22 »

re: BC Rich-

If you're playing a BC Rich and it isn't black with white binding YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

I don't care how fancy the flamed maple or how ornate the neck-through, BC Riches must be BLACK with WHITE BINDING. NO EXCEPTIONS.

I'd like to own a USA-made Warlock or Mockingbird someday. They're really cool out-takes on established designs (Strat and SG).

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