Topic: The Guitar Topic (Read 1983283 times)

karas7 · « **Reply #2700 on:** 05 Jul 2008, 16:45 »

I guess I can post my guitars here.

My very lovely Washburn WD-55.
Got it used with case for $400 bucks. Quite a steal.
The thing plays and sounds better than my sister's $1300 Martin.
I love it. ^_^
My electric is in the shop right now, but I'll upload some pics when I get back.
Actually, while I'm posting right now, I'll ask a question.
Right now, I have a crappy 10W Marshall practice amp and I'm looking to get a better, louder amp.
I have a budget of $800-$900, and I'd like to get a tube amp.
I was looking at the http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Hot-Rod-DeVille-410?sku=480508
Fender Hot Rod DeVille 410 ($850), but I remember reading in this thread it's not good for metal.
However, could one not buy a good distortion pedal to get a metal tone?
Thanks in advance for the help. ^_^
EDIT: Smaller picture, per request. Sorry.

sean · « **Reply #2701 on:** 05 Jul 2008, 16:57 »

Jesus christ dude, try getting a smaller picture. Holy hell...

jeek · « **Reply #2702 on:** 05 Jul 2008, 23:04 »

hi, guys. I registered to show off my guitar. I think it's a pretty nice guitar to have.

I also just noticed that my smokey is made out of a pack of Winstons (we don't even have them here) and therefore right above the speaker it says "Naturally smooth". This isn't really a concept I would normally apply to playing an SG through a Smokey, but it made me giggle.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2703 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 00:14 »

SG 4 EVAR.

Not even joking, my absolute favourite guitar.

FireAarro · « **Reply #2704 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 01:38 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 05 Jul 2008, 12:22

My Hofner. This has been in my family for like, forty years, it's a beautiful, beautiful guitar. It's got the most insane distorted tone, I use it in my metal band. You can't tune it though, the intonation is fucked. However, put it in an open or alternate tuning and you're sorted.

Can't you set the intonation by moving the bridge around?

Ballard · « **Reply #2705 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 19:42 »

Also if the intonation is off, wouldn't any tuning sound off?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2706 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 19:58 »

Quote from: karas7 on 05 Jul 2008, 16:45

I was looking at the http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Hot-Rod-DeVille-410?sku=480508
Fender Hot Rod DeVille 410 ($850), but I remember reading in this thread it's not good for metal.
However, could one not buy a good distortion pedal to get a metal tone?
Thanks in advance for the help. ^_^
EDIT: Smaller picture, per request. Sorry.

I've got that exact amp, the DeVille. I haven't tried playing metal through it, but it gets some crazy tones if you play around with it. It's smaller brethren, the Deluxe 212 has a somewhat darker tone and it's cheaper. There's also the Orange Tiny Terror. Grab a nice cabinet and shred away. One of the dudes from Opeth plays a Laney, I believe. You could look into one of their combos, but I think they're kind of pricey.

Spluff · « **Reply #2707 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 20:50 »

You can't get a metal tone from a DeVille, sorry. The Tiny Terror can almost get there, you'll be able to play 80s and 70s type metal, but nothing heavier.

Ballard · « **Reply #2708 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 20:56 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpZoWsFlJQ

I mean I guess if you're into Gorgoroth then Orange is not for you but otherwise you're solid.

Spluff · « **Reply #2709 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 21:02 »

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. That's pretty much all softer metal, and it's pretty much pushed to it's limit. Pretty excellent tone on the Metallica and Megadeth though.

Ballard · « **Reply #2710 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 21:18 »

Man what happened to the days when Led Zeppelin was the heaviest thing out there and parents thought their kids were Satan worshippers for listening to them?

Spluff · « **Reply #2711 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 21:21 »

I dunno man, I think 40 years passed, that might have had something to do with it.

jeph · « **Reply #2712 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 21:34 »

Quote from: Ballard on 06 Jul 2008, 19:42

Also if the intonation is off, wouldn't any tuning sound off?

Not necessarily- different pitches (string tension) and different intonation (string length) work together to make notes sound in tune. It's the same reason why you have to re-intonate if you make drastic string gauge or tuning changes.

Ballard · « **Reply #2713 on:** 06 Jul 2008, 21:43 »

Quote from: Spluff on 06 Jul 2008, 21:21

I dunno man, I think 40 years passed, that might have had something to do with it.

I'm not trying to ignore four decades of cultural evolution, just.. why have new terms not been invented along with new ideas? Metal used to be, basically, blues rock with heavy distortion, extended solos, and pointier guitars. Now it's an entirely different, broad genre of music and the bands I just described are demoted to "classic rock" status.

himynameisjulien · « **Reply #2714 on:** 07 Jul 2008, 00:26 »

Not to derail the trend of posting pics of your own guitar, but I didn't think this justified a whole thread.
What do you think of Johhny A's signature Gibson? I personally think it's the sickest guitar around.
http://www.gibsoncustom.com/inspiredby/JohnnyAStandard.html
Possibly beaten by an American Telecaster, but I have a soft spot for the twang, and this guitar looks incredible next to a Telecaster. Not that a Tele is ugly, this guitar is just beautiful.

karas7 · « **Reply #2715 on:** 07 Jul 2008, 05:05 »

Quote from: Spluff on 06 Jul 2008, 20:50

You can't get a metal tone from a DeVille, sorry. The Tiny Terror can almost get there, you'll be able to play 80s and 70s type metal, but nothing heavier.

So what are some good amps in my price range ($800-$900) that can get a good range of tones and are decently loud?

jeek · « **Reply #2716 on:** 07 Jul 2008, 05:27 »

Quote from: MadassAlex on 06 Jul 2008, 00:14

SG 4 EVAR.

Not even joking, my absolute favourite guitar.

I wasn't terribly aware of the SG until I went looking for a new guitar (I knew of them, but I was never much of a guitar nerd and they weren't in my list of Totally Cool Stuff) but after seeing, holding and playing one of these babies, I fell in love.

BlahBlah · « **Reply #2717 on:** 07 Jul 2008, 05:30 »

My guitars:

An Ibanez Gio on the left, it's actually pretty good. It has a really nice hard-rock tone. My US Strat on the left, from 1996 I think, I got it second hand last year for £500, and it's awesome. Some crappy bass in the background my dad bought from eBay.

Thrillho · « **Reply #2718 on:** 07 Jul 2008, 05:53 »

Quote from: jeph on 06 Jul 2008, 21:34

Quote from: Ballard on 06 Jul 2008, 19:42
Also if the intonation is off, wouldn't any tuning sound off?

Not necessarily- different pitches (string tension) and different intonation (string length) work together to make notes sound in tune. It's the same reason why you have to re-intonate if you make drastic string gauge or tuning changes.

This must be what's going on then, because alternate tunings work. And of course, if I play with a slide, then you can compensate a bit.

MadassAlex · « **Reply #2719 on:** 07 Jul 2008, 08:06 »

Quote from: Ballard on 06 Jul 2008, 21:43

I'm not trying to ignore four decades of cultural evolution, just.. why have new terms not been invented along with new ideas? Metal used to be, basically, blues rock with heavy distortion, extended solos, and pointier guitars. Now it's an entirely different, broad genre of music and the bands I just described are demoted to "classic rock" status.

Probably because musicians realised that sticking too close to the bluesy roots was holding the genre back, and so expanded it to contain new influences and take new thematic directions.

Heavy metal is famous among those who know anything about it for its constant progression. It aims to be confronting or "freaky" in some way (to paraphrase Tony Iommi), and the more the better as long as it's got a point. I'm all for heavy blues rock with lotsa distortion and wickedly long solos, but there comes a point where the extreme elements became warranted.
Plus, there's no heavy metal without relevant expository. If heavy metal didn't progress it'd still be all about women rather than all about anything whatsoever.

So, basically I'm happy that metal has become such a broad genre, as it doesn't halt the production of traditional metal but allows the genre to stretch its claws and dodge the silver bullet. The only real shame in metal history is hair metal, which is what happens when progression stagnates, or even reverses. Remember that by the time hair metal reached it's peak (about '86, IIRC), extreme metal was well and truly alive as well and had been growing steadily since '80.

tl;dr: Metal is better than ever, in my opinion. If you want heavy blues rock with extended solos, well, listen to heavy blues rock live recordings?

aScaryDog · « **Reply #2720 on:** 08 Jul 2008, 11:46 »

I rock with a Gibson SG, 1997 Model, black on black. I also play classical guitar with a Concert Model Enriquez Model C, it's really sweet for filling a medium concert hall without amplification. Then I also have a Takamine classical/electric as a beater. I'd post pics but I'm not too web savvy.

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #2721 on:** 08 Jul 2008, 16:52 »

Quote from: BlahBlah on 07 Jul 2008, 05:30

My guitars:

An Ibanez Gio on the left, it's actually pretty good. It has a really nice hard-rock tone. My US Strat on the left, from 1996 I think, I got it second hand last year for £500, and it's awesome. Some crappy bass in the background my dad bought from eBay.

not trying to be a dick about the Gio, but my cousin has one, and when i stayed with them i had to play it, absolutely hated it, it may have been because i way playing through an MG, but i have to use my little MG with my talman and it sounds at least decent. however, your strat looks awesome.

Patrick · « **Reply #2722 on:** 09 Jul 2008, 03:33 »

Quote from: Ballard on 03 Jul 2008, 22:51

Shit man, you shouldn't be using 9s for anything. They're shitty and lack any tone.

You just hurt Jimi's feelings. His estate demands an apology.

BlahBlah · « **Reply #2723 on:** 09 Jul 2008, 03:37 »

Quote from: Mr. Mojo on 08 Jul 2008, 16:52

Quote from: BlahBlah on 07 Jul 2008, 05:30
My guitars:

An Ibanez Gio on the left, it's actually pretty good. It has a really nice hard-rock tone. My US Strat on the left, from 1996 I think, I got it second hand last year for £500, and it's awesome. Some crappy bass in the background my dad bought from eBay.

not trying to be a dick about the Gio, but my cousin has one, and when i stayed with them i had to play it, absolutely hated it, it may have been because i way playing through an MG, but i have to use my little MG with my talman and it sounds at least decent. however, your strat looks awesome.

I play it through an old Park practice amp which makes it sound a lot better. It is pretty crap compared to the strat though.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2724 on:** 09 Jul 2008, 05:43 »

Quote from: Patrick on 09 Jul 2008, 03:33

Quote from: Ballard on 03 Jul 2008, 22:51
Shit man, you shouldn't be using 9s for anything. They're shitty and lack any tone.

You just hurt Jimi's feelings. His estate demands an apology.

But...It's the truth, Patrick.

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #2725 on:** 09 Jul 2008, 13:36 »

I've basically been a snob about guitars ever since i got my 94' talman. Which happens to be an ibanez. I'm just not so much one for the Gio's or Ibanez in general. I'm mostly a Fender guy. oh, and the price on that thing? how did you get a fender strat for 500 quid?!

Patrick · « **Reply #2726 on:** 10 Jul 2008, 01:39 »

Acoustic derail!

I've been playing my boss/family friend/landlady's old Yamaha acoustic, which I've just restrung with Ernie Ball Acoustic Slinky strings (12 to 54). It is pretty goddamn nice. Absurdly bright, especially compared to my I-just-smoked-like-50-goddamn-blunts mellow Kay. It's probably the strings that's making the thing sound so bright, but I ain't complaining. I like the sound, and the playability is golden. Intonation's not perfect, but it's close enough for even my perfect-pitched self.

And my Strat-gone-Tele parts should be arriving within the week! I will take photos when I've finally got all of that shit installed, and I'll actually post them (as well as my playing-a-Ric photos from May) when my computer arrives around the same time.

doombilly · « **Reply #2727 on:** 13 Jul 2008, 16:45 »

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Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #2728 on:** 13 Jul 2008, 18:46 »

Quote from: doombilly on 13 Jul 2008, 16:45

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My hatred toward you is immense. I played a TT yesterday and my god i nearly stole the fucking thing.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2729 on:** 13 Jul 2008, 19:14 »

AAAGGGH JEALOUSY

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #2730 on:** 13 Jul 2008, 19:25 »

oh, and lol at the gig bag for the TT. When the guy at the music shop showed me it i laughed hysterically for reasons unkown.

Ballard · « **Reply #2731 on:** 13 Jul 2008, 23:45 »

What's funny about it? It's actually really convenient.

Patrick · « **Reply #2732 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 00:15 »

For the same reason people laugh when they see your penis, Gene. Tiny things are comic gold.

Darkstrike · « **Reply #2733 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 04:02 »

Here's my lot!
Venson 8 string

FrankenBass

Les Paul knockoff

Squier Delux Active V

SX P-Bass

Cort GB-74

Traben Fretless Tribal Sun

Cort Artisan C4H

Traben Kore

Squier VM Fretless

Mandolin(No Brand)

An old acoustc I found and refindhed myself

Richwood Acoustic Bass Guitar

Tanglewood Rebel 4K

Cort EVL Z4B

Edit: I also have a Tenor Banjo, but no pic. And DynamiteKid, The Grey Beast is a Cort, but I couldn't tell you which model.
Edit again!: I forgot, I have a Lap Steel too.

FireAarro · « **Reply #2734 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 04:47 »

nice frankenbass! how's the trem?

Darkstrike · « **Reply #2735 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 04:59 »

Quote from: FireAarro on 14 Jul 2008, 04:47

nice frankenbass! how's the trem?

Thank's! Its a lot better than I expected(after reading up) a trem to be on bass, holds tune perfectly and loads of sustain.
Depending on the strings, you don't get much pull-back, that one I only get a little, my other has extremly low tension strings, and has as much pull as a guitar.
They aren't as useful as one on a guitar is, but I can find more than enough to warrant having it there.

Looks cool too!

doombilly · « **Reply #2736 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 06:53 »

Quote from: Ballard on 13 Jul 2008, 23:45

What's funny about it? It's actually really convenient.

It is totally useful. Cranked the Orange for a 6 hour practice yesterday. Just kept chugging. 3 Bands used it for friday night's show. Did really well. Everybody loved it. The Avatar cabinet is really good sounding as well.

Lummer · « **Reply #2737 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 10:37 »

Quote from: doombilly on 13 Jul 2008, 16:45

[img width= height=]http://lh6.ggpht.com/illicitizen/SHqSQXvOsNI/AAAAAAAACA8/KcDVDJ40eEY/s400/IMG_0143.JPG[/img]

I still can't get over how gosh-darned CUTE that little thing is!

Oh, and DarkStrike; How are those Traben basses? They're hella cheap, so I've considered getting my first fretless off them.

Darkstrike · « **Reply #2738 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 10:58 »

I utterly love mine, my fretted is my no.1 choice for almost all situations.
You might want to try one first though, a lot of people seem to hate them in the bass community.
I think its mostly the appearance though, I mean, for the price you get a lot, Grover tuners, brass nut and bridge, usually flamed or quilted top, a decent active eq and string through body, or toploading options. As for toploading, its a quickloader.

The fretless, when I got it, the edge of the fretboard was a little too sharp, so I had to roll it, not a big deal, 15 mins with some disposable nail files, sandpaper would have been better, but I was in a rush. Lol, I hate waiting around for anything!

Lummer · « **Reply #2739 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 11:03 »

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind!

I saw the guy that plays in Job For A Cryptopsy had one, so I guess they must be alright. They cost around the price of a decent squier, here in Denmark.

Darkstrike · « **Reply #2740 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 11:06 »

Oh, I believe they will beat a Squier into the dirt!

And I love Squier's, just for the record!

I actually got my fretted in Ireland, never seen one since, didn't know they were easy to get in Europe.
My fretless was imported from the US. Still cheaper than most local stuff.

turtlspinr · « **Reply #2741 on:** 14 Jul 2008, 23:01 »

This is what i'm picking up tomorrow. I'm still not completely sure I'm going to drop the $$$ for it, but I'm really really really considering it.

Lummer · « **Reply #2742 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 01:28 »

Freakin' pimptastic axe. I want one!

Darkstrike · « **Reply #2743 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 02:50 »

That is one sweet ass lookin' SG!

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2744 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 08:56 »

Gold hardware = ew. Other than that, sweet. Which model of SG is it?

turtlspinr · « **Reply #2745 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 09:38 »

it's called the SG Diablo, it's a limited run, part of the "Guitar Of The Month" thing that Gibson does.

Catacombs · « **Reply #2746 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 11:45 »

Quote from: imapiratearg on 15 Jul 2008, 08:56

Gold hardware = ew. Other than that, sweet. Which model of SG is it?

Any other time, I'd completely agree with you on the gold=ew thing. But on this model, it actually looks kind of good.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2747 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 11:46 »

Yeah, I kept looking after I posted and it fits with the theme, I suppose.

Shihonage · « **Reply #2748 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 21:02 »

Quote from: doombilly on 13 Jul 2008, 16:45

[img width= height=]http://lh6.ggpht.com/illicitizen/SHqSQXvOsNI/AAAAAAAACA8/KcDVDJ40eEY/s400/IMG_0143.JPG[/img]

How does the Parker play? Always been curious about them. Favourite band used to use them, but switched to ESPs after a reliability issue (?). Still, love the shape, and they're meant to be pretty lightweight.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #2749 on:** 15 Jul 2008, 21:41 »

My friend has a Parker P-42 which I've played, and they play fine enough, but I think they sound like ass. Swap the pickups out and you might have a pretty swell sounding guitar. Don't take my word for it, though. I've only used it a few times.

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