Topic: The Guitar Topic (Read 1980700 times)

valley_parade · « **Reply #3400 on:** 28 Dec 2008, 07:03 »

Quote from: E. Spaceman on 27 Dec 2008, 17:11

It's a shame that they've turned so expensive though, when part of their original appeal was that they were inexpensive instruments.

Look at those early 60s Danos that are going for around $2,000 now. SIGH.

doombilly · « **Reply #3401 on:** 29 Dec 2008, 08:46 »

And another shot of me w/ Black Widow.

They call me, "Guitar-tempest-in-a-teapot."

Christophe · « **Reply #3402 on:** 29 Dec 2008, 09:20 »

DOOMBILLY,

doombilly · « **Reply #3403 on:** 29 Dec 2008, 09:29 »

aw thanks. Here's the one I posted in photothread. Shows the glorious all of the acoustic black widowness.

She's a beauty. But unfaithful to tuning. I'm taking a luthier class end of January. Maybe I can figure out why the G won't stay in tune. Weirdly it will go sharp, I tune it, play awhile...then it goes flat. Bad Grover?

atimholt · « **Reply #3404 on:** 29 Dec 2008, 10:46 »

I've heard the G going out of tune more than the other strings has something to do with music theory, but I don't see how it could. In any case, mine always goes out too.
I think what I really heard is that, with equal temperament, the G can sound more out of tune than the other strings. But mine actually physically seems to be out of tune more than its share of the time. That's probably psychological.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3405 on:** 30 Dec 2008, 07:33 »

Yeah, the same with every guitar I've ever played.

Spluff · « **Reply #3406 on:** 30 Dec 2008, 15:31 »

I tend to find it's the two Es on my guitars that generally go out, but that's because I tend to bang them against things.

Ballard · « **Reply #3407 on:** 30 Dec 2008, 18:40 »

Once I tune it to my content, my G stays in tune pretty faithfully. It's getting it there that's frustrating. It seems like the mark between sharp and flat is 10 times harder to land on than on any other string.

This on every guitar I've played, not just a specific one.

WHAT GIVES. G STRING CONSPIRACY.

Spluff · « **Reply #3408 on:** 30 Dec 2008, 19:04 »

Quote from: Ballard on 30 Dec 2008, 18:40

G STRING CONSPIRACY.

Now this is a conspiracy I am all for.

Lummer · « **Reply #3409 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 07:52 »

Quote from: Ballard on 30 Dec 2008, 18:40

G STRING CONSPIRACY.

Yeah, I'll buy the 8-string Ibanez and tune it up a half step.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3410 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 07:55 »

Can someone please explain the point of an 8 string to me?

Cicero · « **Reply #3411 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 09:04 »

Currently deciding on a Warmoth custom model that is a Firebird or a Thinline. Custom is the way to go. Lifetime investment, the way you want it.

BaneAtvar · « **Reply #3412 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 09:30 »

The reason the G goes out of tune more than the other things, at least, in my reasoning, is that it's too large a string not to be wound, too small to be wound. It's right there in the limit.

The set I have in my jazz box is 0.14 and the G is wound, and it doesnt really go out of tune at all.

glyphic · « **Reply #3413 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 09:57 »

I have a Schecter Ultra-III and my G string is not only constantly detuning, but is also always the first to break. No matter how old the strings are. Even if I only replace the G.

I have maybe a dozen sets of strings that are missing the G at this point. Conspiracy, or am I doing something wrong? I've used everything from ultra-lights to medium-heavies. Wound and unwound. Flat steel, nickel, you name it.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #3414 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 14:13 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 31 Dec 2008, 07:55

Can someone please explain the point of an 8 string to me?

It's got one more.

Ballard · « **Reply #3415 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 14:36 »

Quote from: Cicero on 31 Dec 2008, 09:04

Currently deciding on a Warmoth custom model that is a Firebird or a Thinline. Custom is the way to go. Lifetime investment, the way you want it.

It's not really a lifetime investment since fully custom guitars are less likely to rise in value as time passes. A better example of a lifetime investment would be a NOS 1952 Telecaster.

doombilly · « **Reply #3416 on:** 31 Dec 2008, 16:24 »

Family Picture Time

valley_parade · « **Reply #3417 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 08:35 »

Oh god, that target burst Mustang.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #3418 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 12:35 »

Doombilly. What the hell, man.

doombilly · « **Reply #3419 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 13:49 »

Oops. Did I do something wrong?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #3420 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 15:23 »

You made half the posters in this thread either splooge their pants or feel impotent.

doombilly · « **Reply #3421 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 15:33 »

So I'm the equivalent of a "guitar pornstar?"

Well you know the guitars don't make the player.

Otherwise I'd be good by now.

Lummer · « **Reply #3422 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 16:22 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 31 Dec 2008, 07:55

Can someone please explain the point of an 8 string to me?

Extended range, and increased resonance due to a larger neck.

I for one, would buy the Ibanez RG2228 in a heartbeat if I had the money for it, since the extended tonal range, and subsequently expanded chording possibilities are intriguing to me. Plus, that thing sustains and sings like a motherfucker, even with EMG pickups.

But the point, may be a bit difficult to grasp at first. It's basically a 7-string on steroids, and if you don't want, need or simply can't handle a 7-string, then there is no point in an 8-string guitar for you. As for me, I've already taken the plunge years ago, and I want so, SO bad!
If you see one in a store, try it out. It's really quite easy to play, after you've taken the first 5-10 minutes to get used to the wider fretboard.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #3423 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 16:33 »

So, at what point does it become too many strings?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #3424 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 16:43 »

When the strings outnumber your fingers. On both hands.

See: Eleven string basses.

Lummer · « **Reply #3425 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 16:54 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 02 Jan 2009, 16:33

So, at what point does it become too many strings?

When you can't play it anymore.

Spluff · « **Reply #3426 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 19:06 »

Quote from: imapiratearg on 02 Jan 2009, 16:43

When the strings outnumber your fingers. On both hands.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #3427 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 19:19 »

Quote from: imapiratearg on 02 Jan 2009, 16:43

When the strings outnumber your fingers. On both hands.

See: Eleven string basses.

What about 12-string guitars?

celticgeek · « **Reply #3428 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 21:32 »

Quote from: Lummer on 02 Jan 2009, 16:22

...and if you don't want, need or simply can't handle a 7-string,

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NEED ain't got nothin' to do with it!

imapiratearg · « **Reply #3429 on:** 02 Jan 2009, 21:50 »

Quote from: Spluff on 02 Jan 2009, 19:06

Quote from: imapiratearg on 02 Jan 2009, 16:43
When the strings outnumber your fingers. On both hands.

*Harp.*

Hmm...Touché.

Gemmwah · « **Reply #3430 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 14:23 »

I missed this thread <3

Ballard · « **Reply #3431 on:** 03 Jan 2009, 21:21 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 02 Jan 2009, 19:19

What about 12-string guitars?

Only six count, really. The remaining six just enhance the sound, much like the 13 sympathetic strings on an electric sitar.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3432 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 07:10 »

Quote from: Gemmwah on 03 Jan 2009, 14:23

I missed this thread <3

Did you get that SG Custom yet?

Cicero · « **Reply #3433 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 07:45 »

Quote from: Ballard on 31 Dec 2008, 14:36

It's not really a lifetime investment since fully custom guitars are less likely to rise in value as time passes. A better example of a lifetime investment would be a NOS 1952 Telecaster.

It is a lifetime investment from the perspective that it'll be a guitar I built myself, put my own work into (besides the finish, etc.) and have it set up the way I want. So it'll stay (A) with me forever (B) and can pass it down to a family member. I wouldn't care about the value of it in dollars. *whistle*

valley_parade · « **Reply #3434 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 07:47 »

I know that feeling. I'm thinking about scraping money together this summer and either building a clone of a Custom Esquire (double binding yeeee) or a late '60s Jazz Bass. It probably won't cost me more that $600-700, but the sentimental value of having a custom-built instrument is amazing.

Cicero · « **Reply #3435 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 08:00 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2009, 07:47

I know that feeling. I'm thinking about scraping money together this summer and either building a clone of a Custom Esquire (double binding yeeee) or a late '60s Jazz Bass. It probably won't cost me more that $600-700, but the sentimental value of having a custom-built instrument is amazing.

Yeah, I didn't wanna sound corny -- but that is how it is to me. I'm looking at shelling up to 1,200 on this -- but I think I can get a much better deal. I can do the wiring with some help of a friend who is a musical equipment genius (makes his own pedals and shit). Instruments are like women in many ways. Heck, I still have my first two guitars I've ever owned that sound like crap and don't even play well anymore just because of how attached I was to them. Both were given to me. Doubt I'll ever give them up, regardless of the crappy brands they are (Silvertone acoustic, but it's from the 80s -- I dig it and a Harmony strat rip off, but it's got a bunch of holes drilled in it, and is just a funky monkey!)

Those sound like cool ideas for builds. Got any finishes in mind?

valley_parade · « **Reply #3436 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 08:22 »

If I do the Esquire, probably 3-tone sunburst. I found a site that does finished, bound Tele bodies for $300. I'm sending them an email just to check on the binding, though. The Customs of the late '50s and '60s were bound front and back, I'm worried the bodies these guys sell are front only. If that's the case, I'll switch to an unbound body in red. I want to see if I can have someone do up a custom control plate as well. Volume/Tone and the on-off slider switch from a Mustang, instead of a three-way blade with all that screwy tone-switching.

The Jazz Bass would be black with a matching headstock, and a bound neck with block inlays. I got the inspiration off of this beast Elderly's selling for $13,500.

Cicero · « **Reply #3437 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 08:22 »

I'm droolin' just thinkin' about it dude. Hope it all plays out well for you. If you ever get it done, post pictures. \m/

Ballard · « **Reply #3438 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 13:13 »

Shane, really? You're going to custom-build a Geddy Lee signature? I think the turquoise is much nicer, personally, but then I hate all black guitars (with a few exceptions).

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #3439 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 18:49 »

Quote from: Ballard on 04 Jan 2009, 13:13

Shane, really? You're going to custom-build a Geddy Lee signature? I think the turquoise is much nicer, personally, but then I hate all black guitars (with a few exceptions).

How about a Ric 4003?

Ballard · « **Reply #3440 on:** 04 Jan 2009, 20:43 »

Black (jetglo) is probably the most boring finish they have 4003s in. I'd sooner go with fireglo or even turquoise over black.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3441 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 07:33 »

Quote from: Ballard on 04 Jan 2009, 13:13

Shane, really? You're going to custom-build a Geddy Lee signature? I think the turquoise is much nicer, personally, but then I hate all black guitars (with a few exceptions).

No, no, no. Rosewood fretboard, matching headstock. Who knows. Maybe I'll end up going Sherwood Green metallic.

edit: Eff it, I'm gonna do the Esquire. I got an email back from that site, their bodies ARE double bound.

Ballard · « **Reply #3442 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 18:32 »

Awesome.

Do the Esquire in Sherwood Green!

Mr. Mojo · « **Reply #3443 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 20:29 »

Quote from: Ballard on 04 Jan 2009, 20:43

Black (jetglo) is probably the most boring finish they have 4003s in. I'd sooner go with fireglo or even turquoise over black.

When I got mine Jetglo was unfortunately the only one in stock.
I really would gave liked turqoise...

Ballard · « **Reply #3444 on:** 05 Jan 2009, 20:39 »

I'm sure you can trade it off through craigslist for a different finish if you really want. Rics are hard to come by since they're not sold retail so their resale/trade value is phenomenally high.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3445 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 06:47 »

Quote from: Ballard on 05 Jan 2009, 18:32

Awesome.

Do the Esquire in Sherwood Green!

Man, then I'd have to finish it myself. AND bind it. Too much work for this lazy dude.

Ballard · « **Reply #3446 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 09:15 »

Fuck you Shane. FUCK YOU.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3447 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 09:20 »

See? I could just fucking BUY one.

(of course, that's one of those fucking $1500 thin-skin nitro finishes, isn't it?)

Ballard · « **Reply #3448 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 09:21 »

Yeah. Also it'd be so much cooler if you made one of those.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3449 on:** 06 Jan 2009, 09:23 »

If I had any binding/finishing experience, I would.

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