Topic: Will you watch these Watchmen? (Read 126029 times)

Ozymandias · « **Reply #150 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 00:05 »

Quote from: Anyways on 19 Jul 2008, 23:01

Of course - but throw a glance at what a spectacular job the major studios have done at screwing over every single comic book adaption as well. The trailer reaffirms my fear that Watchmen will join the ranks of butchered comic books. If you read backwards into the thread you'll see how excited I have been for this movie, because I really did believe it had great potential, but after seeing some actual footage my enthusiasm has faltered quite a bit.

I would like to point out the movie this trailer was attached to. Just, you know, pointing that out.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #151 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 18:48 »

I know basically nothing about Watchmen, having never read the comics and not having been aware of the comic before this thread started. That said, I can totally see where Anyways is coming from. The trailer made the film look kind of shallow and heavily stylized and through this thread I've gathered that Watchmen is not really about that. I'm totally going to see it and I'll probably enjoy the shit out of it but it has a definite "silly" feel to it.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #152 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 22:38 »

That's a seriously awesome trailer but I don't really remember any of that shit being in the comic.

Spluff · « **Reply #153 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 22:54 »

It was all in the comic.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #154 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 23:00 »

I guess I need to read it again. I don't remember it having like... action and shit, until the last 20 pages or so.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #155 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 23:43 »

Most of that trailer was shot for shot from the comic.

CamusCanDo · « **Reply #156 on:** 20 Jul 2008, 23:45 »

All I want to see is Billy Cruddup's digitalized blue penis. Goddamn there better be penis.

Alex C · « **Reply #157 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 00:16 »

I can totally understand where Anyways is coming from. Slick isn't really a word that comes to mind with the Watchmen. The characters were intentionally a rather shabby lot; only Dr. Manhattan and (to a much lesser extent; he's freakishly fast but still pretty mundane by comic standards) Ozymandias are superhuman. By the standards of most comics these guys are just a bunch of disturbed shmucks parading around in some strikingly retro costumes (or in an obvious exception, blue and naked). There's times where the Watchmen is aggressively anachronistic in visual style and they often seem to deliberately keep the main characters off frame and instead focus on mundane, gritty or outright ugly details. There wasn't even any goofy stylized comic book sound effects drawn into the action, and for once the naked guy is actually naked! The Watchmen is essentially the anti-Spawn.

I actually feel kind of bewildered and sorry for everyone involved when I think about trying to pull off a Watchmen movie. Converting the Watchmen isn't the same as porting over Batman to the big screen; it's a story, not an icon, and there isn't really an easily accessible mythos attached. As Dark Knight has proven, there's wiggle room for telling your own Batman stories while still reaping the benefits of having characters people are familiar with. I'm not sure if the same could be said of the Watchmen, which puts an awful lot of pressure on director and screenwriter, since the comic is ridiculously dense despite being "only" a dozen issues.

De_El · « **Reply #158 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 01:13 »

Did anyone else notice their choice of song for the trailer and find it ironic?

johnny5 · « **Reply #159 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 06:52 »

Saw the trailer, it looked...okay. The trailer song was pretty horrendous, the CGI looked horrible (ship coming out of the water and sort of hovering there for us to see how fake it looks), and none of the actors look that good. The fact the 300 guy is directing it isn't very encouraging either.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #160 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 12:10 »

Here is an interview with Matthew Goode, the guy who plays Ozymandias. The first half of the interview is about Watchmen, which seems promising.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #161 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 12:15 »

having never read Watchmen, i will see this movie.

i have faith in the 300 guy, whatever his name may be, to deliver some sweet imagery and classy editing.

De_El · « **Reply #162 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 21:53 »

It was the song Smashing Pumpkins did for Batman & Robin, only it was a slowed down mix of it.

Rizzo · « **Reply #163 on:** 21 Jul 2008, 22:17 »

Quote from: johnny5 on 21 Jul 2008, 06:52

Saw the trailer, it looked...okay. The trailer song was pretty horrendous, the CGI looked horrible (ship coming out of the water and sort of hovering there for us to see how fake it looks), and none of the actors look that good. The fact the 300 guy is directing it isn't very encouraging either.

Picky picky picky. Actors all looked just fine, CGI was on par with just about everything else and 300 was a decent film. I have faith.

Currently rereading Watchmen.

talon · « **Reply #164 on:** 22 Jul 2008, 00:47 »

the smashing pumpkins song was all ready chill and slowed down "the beginning is the end is the beginning" (not to be mistaken with the same more up-beat and faster "the end is the beginning is the end")
as for the trailer, everything looks awesome to me. i love both independant and big budget films (hope someday to see an indie creation of mine on the big screen) but i think you can't help but throw money at a project like this that has such a large scope and almost demands the production of a big time studio. having read and as a fan of Watchmen i think it will be really good and do really good at the box office as well, so what if people are getting payed. i can't wait to spend my money and be amazed, and then talk with my nerd friends about what was completely spot on and what they coulda done better. I believe in Zack Snyder.
and i know they won't be able to cram everything in the movie because the book is a lot of story for 2 hours and i'm okay with that, just like i am mostly okay with many comic book based renditions onto film. can't make all the fans happy, just look at frank miller's Dark Knight Returns, one of the best batman story/graphic novel in publication but does it follow the exact DC universe? No, but it' still awesome.
keep the comic book movies comin', the more the merrier... even the crappy ones, its an endless resource for film adaptation. better than all the horrible spoof movies of late.

Faker · « **Reply #165 on:** 22 Jul 2008, 11:24 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 20 Jul 2008, 22:38

That's a seriously awesome trailer but I don't really remember any of that shit being in the comic.

Here is a pretty good trailer to comic comparison.

Gridgm · « **Reply #166 on:** 22 Jul 2008, 20:58 »

wow...i still have the same complaints about the trailer but damn it looked good on imax

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #167 on:** 22 Jul 2008, 22:02 »

That is a pretty awesome thing. The stills look really cool. The only character's appearance I don't know about is Veidt.. he looks so young.

IronOxide · « **Reply #168 on:** 23 Jul 2008, 07:55 »

I think all of the costumes and stuff are pretty well modernized, and I actually feel pretty good about the appearance of Veidt. I am worried about the Nite Owl though. He is supposed to look like a sort of washed-up batman, not like peak of his life batman. But I am still happy with the way the trailer looks. Not quite how I would have taken the Rorschach voice, but it seems to be a liberty that could work.

I am more excited about this film now than I have been in a long time, but I will remain cautious. Maybe I'll be more likely to go for it opening night now, though.

DoubleAW · « **Reply #169 on:** 23 Jul 2008, 12:50 »

I saw this trailer while watching TDK and immediately remembered that I had not yet read Watchmen. I proceeded to do so.

They better not fuck this up. Fortunately, judging by the trailer, it looks like it's gonna go pretty well. Hopefully.

Spluff · « **Reply #170 on:** 24 Jul 2008, 03:56 »

Quote from: IronOxide on 23 Jul 2008, 07:55

Not quite how I would have taken the Rorschach voice, but it seems to be a liberty that could work.

To be fair, it's a comic book and therefore the sound of his voice wasn't recorded. I suspect each person imagines his voice in a different way.

That said, it was pretty much how I imagined it.

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #171 on:** 25 Jul 2008, 05:38 »

Just be thankful they didn't use the bat-voice.

pilsner · « **Reply #172 on:** 25 Jul 2008, 12:25 »

Actually, hearing the voice of Rorschach in the trailer made me hate Bale's bat-voice just a little more. I thought the trailer was great, and was very impressed with the fidelity to the comic book, almost scene by scene. They were clever in that they definitely meant to spur on the the hard-core fan base by including some pretty important scenes completely out of context, particularly the scene of the Comedian with a flamethrower in Vietnam, and the scene where multiple Dr. Manhattans at a delicate time drives Laurie away.

What I'm reading online is that while Snyder changed the ending, it won't be a happy ending. Now that I think about, there are some things that I'm really hoping they change. Remember how Nite Owl cracked Ozy's code before discovering the conspiracy Ozy engineered?

Nite Owl: Ramses

Computer: Warm! Want to try again?

Nite Owl: Trojan

Computer: Awww, and you were getting so close

Nite Owl: Ramses II

Computer: Hurray! Here are all the secret files!

Sure you could argue that Ozy made it easy because he wanted Nite Owl there, but I mean come on. At least make him upload a virus from a Macbook or something.

minorbird · « **Reply #173 on:** 27 Jul 2008, 02:41 »

Quote

Fans of Alan Moore's seminal graphic novel Watchmen have another reason to be excited (or apprehensive). The upcoming Warner Bros. Pictures film adaptation is already faced with the daunting task of capturing the nuanced and layered story of the original comics, but the studio's interactive entertainment arm today announced it would further adapt the film into games.

Full article here

Ozymandias · « **Reply #174 on:** 27 Jul 2008, 18:16 »

...

Actually, I could see it working as a Max Payne-esque video game.

It won't be. It'll be a POS terrible crappy shovelware franchise video game, but in theory it would've been good.

Surgoshan · « **Reply #175 on:** 27 Jul 2008, 22:00 »

I saw the trailer when I went to see Dark Knight and, while I know nothing about Watchmen, I now want to see the movie. I'm worried, though, because it looks ambitious as hell.

Lines · « **Reply #176 on:** 28 Jul 2008, 09:50 »

I too saw it for DK and know nothing about Watchmen, but now I want to read the comic. So I'll probably buy that next time I'm in the comic store...

(Also, I'm kind of happy with the casting choices. I like everyone they picked, even though they aren't that well known.)

Alex C · « **Reply #177 on:** 28 Jul 2008, 15:03 »

My biggest worry remains the Comedian; mishandling him and his relationships could leave the movie feeling about as awkward as Ctrl-Alt-Del's miscarriage storyline.

Johnny C · « **Reply #178 on:** 21 Oct 2008, 17:55 »

Spoilers ahoy, but apparently the ending might have been changed?

0bsessions · « **Reply #179 on:** 21 Oct 2008, 18:02 »

Lying in the Gutters on CBR covered this yesterday. He's generally got his shit together and says that there's been an alleged few endings filmed and will be attached with some pre-screenings.

Source

the-artful-dodger-rodger · « **Reply #180 on:** 22 Oct 2008, 13:10 »

<------ still want to see this movie, infact I want to steal a time machine to go to see this movie.

Guido Sarducci · « **Reply #181 on:** 22 Oct 2008, 15:20 »

I so want this to be what it was when I first read it! Mind you, I still own the original prints somewhere in my attic. I might just sell em afte rthe movie and make a jillion dollars and retire to Boca Ratan. Well, in my dreams anyway. I think we're in a good era for it to be done in: lots of dark thoughts going on in the world, he government is filled with hypocritcal thieving hypocritcial scum who aren't beyond a good conspiracy or three. But I worry that the cast is way too young. We'll see how it works out. If they'd cast it with real forty somethings it would have some real swing, but as it is...I fear it's going to fall flat for me.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #182 on:** 22 Oct 2008, 17:18 »

Well, all of the actors are at least 30, they are mostly younger than their characters (except, I think, for the person playing the second silk spectre), but the only one I would be worried about is Nite Owl. Rorschach is almost always masked, Dr. Manhattan looks pretty well ageless, Ozymandias looks young, the Silk Spectre is young, and the actor playing the Comedian is old enough to fit the look.

Guido Sarducci · « **Reply #183 on:** 22 Oct 2008, 20:57 »

well, all right. but if it sucks I'm comin after you for setting me up for a letdown!

Nodaisho · « **Reply #184 on:** 23 Oct 2008, 19:02 »

I never said it would be good, I just said that the actors aren't too young, though I don't know whether they look too young, as I only know how the actor playing the comedian looks all that well.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #185 on:** 23 Oct 2008, 19:18 »

Speaking of the Watchmen, I just got the novel for my birthday! Awesome!

Guido Sarducci · « **Reply #186 on:** 23 Oct 2008, 19:51 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 23 Oct 2008, 19:02

I never said it would be good, I just said that the actors aren't too young, though I don't know whether they look too young, as I only know how the actor playing the comedian looks all that well.

I was just teasing. I know better than to depend on the word of somebody on the internet with whom I have exchanged two sentences

I really hope it's a good un tho!

Dazed · « **Reply #187 on:** 23 Nov 2008, 14:47 »

In case people haven't seen yet, bumping this up, new trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLA0tg5yI0

Looking good imo, still think Veidt is maybe a little too skinny and/or young, but we'll see.

Johnny C · « **Reply #188 on:** 21 Jan 2009, 14:35 »

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/01/this_video_may_prove_dr_manhat.php

aaaaaaaa

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #189 on:** 21 Jan 2009, 14:49 »

oooooooo

De_El · « **Reply #190 on:** 21 Jan 2009, 16:03 »

whoaaaaz

Dazed · « **Reply #191 on:** 21 Jan 2009, 17:49 »

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #192 on:** 21 Jan 2009, 19:15 »

I'd watch a Dr. Manhattan cartoon

BlackBooks · « **Reply #193 on:** 22 Jan 2009, 23:14 »

A Dr. Manhattan cartoon? You mean like Milhouse's copy of Watchmen Babies?

Note to those living under a rock: that's a reference to Alan Moore's guest appearance on The Simpsons. Of course, the show has sucked so bad the last 10 years, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the readers don't get it.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #194 on:** 23 Jan 2009, 01:09 »

Though, I have to suggest that the Dr. Manhattan cartoon goes against the world envisioned in the comic, which is to say that in a world where masked crusader exist, people weren't really that enamored with the concept. Hence, the Black Freighter comic.

ZACK SNYDER RUINS EVERYTHING

Spluff · « **Reply #195 on:** 23 Jan 2009, 02:14 »

At this time in the novel, the general population was still pretty happy with their masked vigilantes.

Johnny C · « **Reply #196 on:** 25 Jan 2009, 12:15 »

Yeah dude, part of the news report is that it's the tenth anniversary of his "birth," which pegs the broadcast at 1969.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #197 on:** 27 Jan 2009, 02:27 »

Geez Jordan for a dude named a after a character in the book you don't really know much about it do you do you do you

Blyss · « **Reply #198 on:** 27 Jan 2009, 08:23 »

I will watch these Watchmen, yes. I'm only just now reading the comic books, and I find them awesome. I can't wait for the movie.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #199 on:** 27 Jan 2009, 11:04 »

Now you too can dress up like the Watchmen

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