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Caspian

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Recommend me some Classical!
« on: 30 Jul 2007, 01:52 »

OK, I'm looking for some Classical that's preferably quite dark and minor key. I listen to a lot of slow, droney music, so if you know some nice slow, dark classical please recommend it!

Bear in mind that I have basically no knowledge of classical, so don't be afraid to recommend me Beethoven or Stravinsky or any of the more common stuff. The only piece of classical that I have is Beethoven's 1st and 6th symphony and Vivaldi's Four Seasons. Recommend away!
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #1 on: 30 Jul 2007, 07:42 »

Beethoven's third and seventh both fit what you are looking for (listen to the second movements of both for dark and minor).

Brahms' 4th is another good one in that sort of idiom, as is his first.

Bruckner's 8th. 

Mussorgsky's Night on Bald Mountain (This is fast ok? But I don't know anyone who doesn't like it doesn't like dark and minor key music anyway)

If you're feeling a bit adventurous and aren't afraid of stuff that isn't in 'normal' tonality, definitely listen to some Alfred Schnittke.  Anything by him written from around the late 70s onwards.  Recently I've been listening to his sixth symphony a lot; it is great.

Arvo Pärt's Tabula Rasa, or Cantus in Memoriam Benjamin Britten.

Avoid American composers at all costs, really.  They tend to write more upbeat or whimsical sorts of things, or just wank around trying to impress each other.  No real darkness, unless it's really affected.  Western Europe is less upbeat, but there's stil a focus on academia (not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that) rather than stuff to mess you up inside.

If you want dark modern music, look to Eastern Europe - pretty much any Russian composer since Shostakovich, and ex-Eastern Bloc composers like Pärt, György Ligeti, Sophia Gubaidulina (hey check it out fellas women can write music too) or Henryk Górecki.  It's pretty understandable why this is: American composers are typically from white, upper-middle class backgrounds and therefore have not (in general ok) really endured much in the way of hardship or personal strife.  Russian composers not only went through the economic downfall of Communism but also dictatorial control over what music was acceptable.  Composers disappeared if the state didn't like what they were doing.

Though on the other hand a lot of their music is more spiritual and uplifting (like most of Pärt's) so that can be something to watch out for - they either wrote dark stuff to express personal anguish or found solace in God.  Schnittke did a kind of a mix of the two - his spiritual music is pretty damn depressing.

Anyway there are some ideas off the top of my head.  There's a bit of a range of styles there so see what you like/don't like.  If you don't like any of it say so and we'll try to think of some other stuff.
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #2 on: 30 Jul 2007, 09:10 »

I'll have to second Gorecki.  He's fast become one of my favorite composers and is easily the most depressing music I've ever heard.  Check out of course his Symphony No. 3, but also his String Quartet No. 3 that the Kronos Quartet just recorded is pretty great too.

I do have to agree with the above explanation in favor of eastern european composers, but there is one small exception that comes to mind - Samual Barber's String Quartet No. 1.
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #3 on: 30 Jul 2007, 10:35 »

Off the top of my head a couple of my favourite pieces are Goethe's "Der Erlkönig" and "The Moldau" by Smetana are a couple of my favourite pieces. "Night On Bald Mountain" is also a badass piece.
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #4 on: 30 Jul 2007, 10:39 »

Well I'm not sure but, uh, this seems like a pretty good list: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,16348.0.html
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #5 on: 30 Jul 2007, 11:27 »

A couple of my favorites:

Hindemith's Symphonic Metamorphosis - based on themes originally by Carl Maria von Weber, Hindemith through outstanding use of instrumentation, created one of the grandest pieces of music written in the twentieth century. The fourth Movement (Marsch) still gives me goosebumps.

Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto - Written on a 'vacation' after his wife tried to kill herself and was committed, Tchaikovsky with his student and violinist Yosif Kotek wrote the entire work in a month. Now known as one of the most technically demanding pieces for violin, it shows that beauty and extreme technical skill do not have to be exclusive.

Any collection of the choral works of Eric Whitacre - Number one on my personal list of "Composers Who are Alive Today", his choral works show the effectiveness of the combination of elaborate chord structure, dissonance, and consonance to create works that are accessible to somebody unaccustomed to the genre while containing more than enough substance to keep the listener following the works for a long time.

Maybe more later, I am not big on overloading you right away.
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #6 on: 30 Jul 2007, 14:49 »

The Sibelius violin concerto.

Also, it's all kinds of cliche, but Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata fits the bill very nicely.

And you might actually want to take a peek at some Gregorian chants.
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Re: Recommend me some Classical!
« Reply #7 on: 31 Jul 2007, 00:35 »

I heartily recommend Gustav Holst.  My favorites from him are more up beat and just simply fun to play, but he does have a fair amount of moody music.

St. Paul's Suite Op.29 No.2: IV Finale (The Dargason) is my favorite song to play.  I can't quite explain it.

(btw, 1st post on the QC forums)
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