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Stardust
SusurrusIgnoramus:
i sat through most of the movie head-in-hand. i was very disapointed. i understand that certain changes need to be made in book-to-film adaptations, but there were just SO MANY and a lot of them didn't feel necessary. (capt. shakespeare being gay? the warm fuzzy ending? just to name a couple) it was a good movie in its own right, but it wasn't really stardust.
i like it better now that i've been able to let it sit for a few days, and i'll probably like it better the more time passes. maybe i'll give it another watch now that i know what to expect. but still...
pilsner:
*massive spoiler warning*
Yeah, I liked the book without loving it and actually disliked the movie too. DeNiro playing gay for laughs didn't really work for me. It was a little too bigoted and a little too childish. I don't know that the warm and fuzzy ending was any less warm and fuzzy than the one in the book -- if anything the book is warmer and fuzzier with the witch realizing that the star has given away her heart and returning home peacefully.
I don't get the Princess Bride references either. Princess Bride broke the fourth wall all over the place, was very satirical and self-aware, whereas Stardust (typically for Gaiman) was as far as I could tell written in earnest.
Dimmukane:
There is a camp of people that believe Shakespeare actually was gay, and Neil Gaiman has always seemed to me to be in that camp, even if he didn't actually write it that way. My two cents on that bit.
pilsner:
Seeing as how he was a ridiculously marginal character/deus ex machina in the book, I don't see how it would make much of a difference. Moreover there is a huge difference between being gay, and being a flamboyant lisping crossdresser for easy laughs. Gay for laughs is a very dangerous road to traverse, and in the context of a children's film -- which this was (witness the only blood in the film being blue) -- I think it's doubly dangerous
SusurrusIgnoramus:
*spoiler warning for the book and the movie*
--- Quote from: pilsner on 13 Aug 2007, 19:50 ---I don't know that the warm and fuzzy ending was any less warm and fuzzy than the one in the book -- if anything the book is warmer and fuzzier with the witch realizing that the star has given away her heart and returning home peacefully.
--- End quote ---
yeah, but remember at the very end, tristan dies of old age, and yvaine lives on because stars are immortal. the castle stormhold falls into disrepair, and she spends most of her time at the top of a roofless tower staring at the night sky. her love is dead, and she can never go back home... pretty depressing if you ask me.
but in the book they used the babylon candle to both go back to the sky (nevermind that tristan wouldn't be able to live in an oxygenless environment ;P)
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