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pilsner:
I take youre point. I think there's actually something telling about how we reacted differently to each ending. The idea of Yvaine and Tristran ruling for 3 generations and then being put into the sky together reminded me of the Swan Boat at the end of the Lord of the Rings -- which made me incredibly sad the first time I read it at the agre of 10 or 11. It fit into the movie's theme of "immortality would be awful unless you had someone to share it with" clearly enough, but because it reminded me of the death/heaven allegory from Lord of the Rings, it seemed somewhat melancholy.
Whereas Yvaine outliving Tristran and ruling after him seemed like a very happy ending to me -- I mean I couldn't believe for a moment that for a fairy tale to have a happy ending it had to end with the protagonist's immortality. Yvaine and Tristran exploring the world before taking the throne and ruling together was sort of a best case scenario -- wasn't it? And I don't believe that the castle did fall into disrepair -- if memory serves Yvaine takes over a wing of the castle that had been closed off because it was open to the sky and spends her night communing with the stars. But she rules justly, the kingdom prospers, and after a few centuries I'm guessing she takes a consort or something. A star's got needs after all.
SusurrusIgnoramus:
Maybe you're right about the castle. It has been a while since I read the book. And yes, them exploring the world was best-case I think. Now that I think about it, maybe I wouldn't go so far as to call the ending of the book depressing, but it's bittersweet at best. And yes, it is a fairy tale, but it's also Gaiman. I think the "happily ever after" would have cheapened the book a bit, but I guess it worked ok for the movie.
and, the hopeless romantic in me would like to think yvaine stayed true to tristan for all eternity, but the realist in me realizes that probably wouldn't be the case. :-) he'd want her to be happy, after all.
pilsner:
Heh heh. Four words: freaky eternal star lovin'
the-artful-dodger-rodger:
book ending: Tristran and Yvaine return to Stormhold after so many years wandering through the world, Tristran becomes king, dies of old age, Yvanie becomes queen, life is good, she some nights looking the star, life is good, the end.
MusicScribbles:
I think I might have enjoyed the movie a lot. This might be because of my reading th book, or because I've finally gotten to see Neil Gaiman adapted to film. It could have been R, but PG-13 worked too. The movie did move quickly, and I didn't like how they rushed into it in the beginning. It stole a lot of the mysticism out of the story, with the yearly marketplace thing and all. That was one of the more interesting ideas to me at one point. And who says that Robert DeNiro didn't come across as a good cross dresser? That's crap, he was amazing.
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