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Fallout 3
Jackie Blue:
So Johnny, you wouldn't mind if the next wacky Will Ferrell movie was Citizen Kane 2?
Just sayin', you know. Just sayin'.
Johnny C:
I didn't mind Aliens, dig?
Jackie Blue:
Ohhh. Nicely played. Alright, you win this round, you rogue.
KvP:
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--- Quote from: Narr on 28 Jan 2008, 16:45 ---first person perspecting seems too much like a gameplay device rather than simply another point of view for dramatic effect.
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Heaven forbid, right?
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He's actually referring to what was promised by Bethesda, namely that third-person would be a viable perspective for playing the game. What he's saying is, it looks like that's not the case.
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 28 Jan 2008, 18:52 ---I didn't mind Aliens, dig?
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This isn't a property passing hands from Ridley Scott to James Cameron. This is a property changing hands from Kubrick to Brett Ratner.
--- Quote from: Johnny C on 03 Feb 2008, 00:34 ---But why? Why would you want a throwback when we're living in a different decade? Games have come pretty damn far since Fallout, dude. The series is allowed to move with the times, and it's entitled to, whether fans like it (based, by the way, entirely on advance press) or not.
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That argument only goes so far. What we're taking issue with is Bethsoft fixing what isn't broken, or more accurately, defacing what's perfect. For some, it's isometric perspective or turn-based combat, something that I don't really take issue with, although SPECIAL is built around turn-based gameplay and stands to be significantly altered. I mostly care about the aesthetic laid down by Boyarski that enraptured me so much as a child, which looks like it's being scrapped where all other aspects of the game seem to be getting some sort of Bethsoft attention.
And there's also dialogue and its trees, something integral to Fallout's gameplay, and something that Bethesda hasn't touched in any form for at least 12 years.
I mean, if you want to argue that the type of game that Bethsoft makes is better than the type of game Fallout is, then that's fine.
Johnny C:
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In theory, you could play Metal Gear Solid 3 almost entirely from a third-person perspective. However, it doesn't really look like that's not the case since there's the one shot from a first person perspective.
Yeah, except Ridley Scott -> James Cameron actually happened. We can speculate all we want but the fact is that the franchise changed hands. Rather than bitch and moan about it, we should maybe wait to see what happens? Who knows, one of us could lead a charmed life and as a result we'll all be pleasantly surprised.
The aesthetic does look a bit different, which is basically the biggest thing I'll concede to you - the vaccuum-tube charm of the games is remarkably tough to nail down, though, and frankly I'm willing to give Bethseda credit for simply trying.
And because I promised it,
--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 03 Feb 2008, 11:32 ---A BLOO BLOO BLA BLOO
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