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To all you music junkies>

I would like to know what you think about the evolution of music.

Sure, trends, techniques, and fads come and go.
Some are exploited, milked to the death, and hardly ever appreciated again.
While other seem to stay with us, and become essential elements of things to come.

As we continue to experiment with new instrumentation, timbres, and rhythmic patterns,
As we shamelessly merge, clash, and fuse genres together,
As music itself grows as an art form,

what do you see in store for the future?
What would you like to see?

Hell, Justice remixed Justin Timberlake's "Love Stoned"~ (and it's smokin' hawt)

I'm just waiting for Melanie Pain to pursue her hidden desire to produce a solo booty-beat album.

Tell me whatcha think.
 

[öde]

I don't pay that much attention to trends since I'm constantly discovering bands I haven't heard of from all time periods.

I do know I want post-rock and drone in general to do something interesting/new or fuck off.

[melmenetkwe]

Okay, so how about we begin where music began? We went from tribal, to Classical with composers sluch as, Beethoven, Bach, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, and Mozart (just to name a few...) to eventually the beginning of Blues and Jazz with Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgeral, eventually to the era of rock, The Beatles, Elvis, The Doors, which progressed eventually into the  70's and 80's of Led Zeplin, Black Sabbath, and so forth, and Hip Hop was born, with LL Cool J, and then there was the 90's with a whole jumble of other stuff, and then fast foreward to now. Well, music? I honestly wonder what is going to happen to it, and I seriously do wonder about what is happening to the quality of music these days. Because a lot of the stuff these days is crap, and when you go to any CD store you usually have to dig a little deeper, and in the moth ridden sections for the good stuff, because honestly?? But you hear those mainstream bands out there who make you want to drill a hole in your head because the music is just crap. I do admit to listening to some mainstream stuff, not all of it is bad, but most of is crap, which is why I'm slowly being pulled over to the other side, and listening to some slightly more Indie music (okay, maybe some of it isn't really Indie, but it isn't exactly stuff you regularly hear on the radio or see on tv.)

But some things I'd actually like to see happen? Some of the old school stuff genuinely come back, because in my opinion old school shouldn't have made way for new school, because old school was just way better. BUT, I will admit that there is some good new stuff out there too.

Two of the weirdest colaberations I've seen done to date? Justin Timberlake and 50 Cent. I know all kind of pop artists are doing some sort of colab with some hip hop artist or another, I just never thought that 50 Cent would ever do it, but then again, I don't know why I really care, I don't really have any.... well kind feelings for 50 Cent. The other being that Mötley Crüe and Simple Plan wrote If I Die Tomorrow together, that was one I never got. But then agian, that could just be me and my thoughts about it, w/e .

A fusion I would find interesting? For someone to try and throw some Blues, some kinda rock/metal, and a bit of hip hop all thrown together. I think it would sound kinda cool. But I generally have no outlook or prediction on where I think music is going right now, because music changes and evolves daily, and the biggest movements can happen at any sudden and random time.  So, I've gone a little off topic (and I kinda started off topic...  ) and jumped around, but these are my thoughts for now on music, and it's future.

[rhinohelicopter]

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A fusion I would find interesting? For someone to try and throw some Blues, some kinda rock/metal, and a bit of hip hop all thrown together.

I don't know,  The first part is just early metal (Sabbath, Zepplin). I really like Sabbath but I wouldn't want to hear it thrown together with hip hop.  I think it might come out sounding like Zepplin fronted by Fred Durst.  I think we can all agree that would be a shame.

[Joseph]

There's also definitely a ton of hip-hop that works over Blues and Jazz sort of stuff.

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There's also definitely a ton of hip-hop that works over Blues and Jazz sort of stuff.

We be to rap what key be to lock.

I eat up old school like cookies at christmas time.

But I generally have no outlook or prediction on where I think music is going right now, because music changes and evolves daily, and the biggest movements can happen at any sudden and random time.  So, I've gone a little off topic (and I kinda started off topic...  ) and jumped around, but these are my thoughts for now on music, and it's future.

I love going off topic, brings new elements of discussion to the table, haha.
As far as musical revolutions/movements go,
why can't they occur overnight?

I mean, as an art form, it should be susceptible to all sorts of coked-out interpretations all the time.
Not to be produced, appreciated, and judged off of consensus building.

Or at least, that's what I think.

[Gridgm]

ok so maybe there's not that much rock involved but seriously go over to the sendspace thread and download a copy of the cat empires self titled debut (i think i saw it in there somewhere)

[3Z3VH]

Grandmaster who ?!

[Johnny C]

Run DM-what?

[Joseph]

Kool DJ when?

[rhinohelicopter]

There's also definitely a ton of hip-hop that works over Blues and Jazz sort of stuff.

Oh, of course.  Some of the best hip-hop beats (in my opinion) utilize jazzy samples.  I just don't think hip hop would work with an early bluesy-metal sound.

[Spinless]

"95% of the good music that will be made has already been made."

Or something like that.
There's an awful lot of music around now. I have no idea where music is headed next. There won't be another musical 'revolution' because there's nothing that's really 'new'.

Thoughts?

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"95% of the good music that will be made has already been made."

95% of the good music that will be made has yet to be made.

I don't think that we've reached the end of musical creativity.

That's what people thought 10, 20, 30 years ago.

It's like saying we can only comprehend what we know to exist.

Yeah, we have explored a LOT in the world of sound, but it can never really go stale/reach an endpoint in innovation.

[melmenetkwe]

Alright, alright, I relent, LL Cool J was not the grandfather of hip hop, and did not start it himself, there was Kool DJ Herc, Grand Master Flex, and Run DMC amoung other artists. who all contripbuted to the beginning of hip hop. He was the first one that came to mind, and it was aorund 1am that I wrote that on no sleep.

[Baggy]

A lot of people like to say that music is dying or that we're seeing the the complete degradation of it these days, but I can't find it in me to believe that.  Music is nearly as old as organized human society itself.  It's in our instincts and natural behaviour to react to the steady beat and melodies that are created with music in some physiological/psychological way.  We can't end music in humans anymore than we can end language.

That being said while the popular music that makes it to the mass audience may be something I consider mostly talentless shit served on a silver platter, there is plenty of music out there that is new, original, and played by talented individuals.  It may not make it to a wide audience simply because of the commoditization of the music industry, but it still exists and will always exist.  We'll just have to dig for it.

[gytaar]

Alright, alright, I relent, LL Cool J was not the grandfather of hip hop, and did not start it himself, there was Kool DJ Herc, Grand Master Flex, and Run DMC amoung other artists. who all contripbuted to the beginning of hip hop. He was the first one that came to mind, and it was aorund 1am that I wrote that on no sleep.

sure you didnt mean gransmaster flash??
whatever...

music will never die or stop to evolve..imagine 30-40 years ago...90% off all the music that came out then to was also just bullshit, think of all the artists that just died in a pool of their own vomited notes that never got to see another day,and no one will ever hear about...
yeah,its completly right that the music has turned into an industry, but a musical revolution is at hand(and im not talking about youtube, goddammit)
i think in the future 10 years or so were gonna see all these musicians that are able to see past mtv(god i hate mtv, they should exchange music for marketing, just so they can keep their fucking logo),fortune and fame and is really in it for the love or the artistry have their powers combined(heart!) to fight the evil pollution of the moneymaking music whores....or maybe not..i was just in it for the captain planet reference anyway...

good music always finds a way to come along..revolution or not..and musiclovers will always know good music, so whoever says that music is gonna die are just retarted anyway and their opinion doesnt count

 

[mfpole]

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A fusion I would find interesting? For someone to try and throw some Blues, some kinda rock/metal, and a bit of hip hop all thrown together.

Umm.. Rage Against the Machine?


Saying that good music is drying up is all bullshit. However, innovation will not come from whining. Start a band. That is an order.


Reading this I started thinking, what was rap before Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash started it? What about the countless other genres that haven't been created yet? When rap came out, it couldn't be described as some shitty cross between existing genres, it was something really new and unexplored.

So I will take back saying RATM, and will say this: If you want Blues-rap-rock or whatever, go try and make it.

[KharBevNor]

When you get down to it, raps just toasting over musique concrete made out of old funk songs.

[Alex C]

Yeah, but there's definitely a trick to it. Rakim's rhymes vs. Fred Durst's "rapping" isn't exactly much of a contest...

[amok]

A lot of people like to say that music is dying or that we're seeing the the complete degradation of it these days, but I can't find it in me to believe that.  Music is nearly as old as organized human society itself.  It's in our instincts and natural behaviour to react to the steady beat and melodies that are created with music in some physiological/psychological way.  We can't end music in humans anymore than we can end language.

I like this a lot. Well said.

[pteridoid]

The thing about music these days, or about anything with our culture, is that there's so much of it and it's happening so fast. Think about it. All the music out there that we think of as sucking balls, its main weakness is that it's recycling new ideas. Most people don't notice how boring it is because they don't know where it came from. Someone like Kraftwork puts out something new and interesting, and within a decade it's spawned its own genre and sub-genres and reactions against and fusions with just about anything you can imagine.

There were centuries of slow progression from classical to boroque and...I don't know, fill in the gaps with your knowledge of classical music. Music went through recognizable changes, but they took decades and centuries. Then the twentieth century hits, and suddenly you've got people like John Cage sitting in front of a piano for four minutes playing nothing and gaging the audience response and calling it music.

So to answer the question, I really don't know. And I don't think any of us can. Naturally, there'll be reworking and re-imagining older stuff, like the White Stripes are doing, and naturally there'll be fusions of every kind of music with every other kind. But beyond that, who can say?