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Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: The Viz on 04 Dec 2007, 12:46 ---Popularity has nothing to do with quality.
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Not really true. Something which is "good" for what it's doing will always be popular. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is probably the "most popular" post-rock band, and they are very high quality for what they're doing.
Same with shitty pop music. Sure, you may not like it, but for fans of shitty pop, clearly albums which sell so many copies are doing something for somebody.
In conclusion:
--- Quote ---Don't be a hipster snob.
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De_El:
--- Quote from: that big ole list on wikipedia ---Albums to have sold at least 15 million copies
Kenny G. - Breathless
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Heh. Eheh. Bwahahahaahahahaha. So I didn't actually know Kenny G. was that popular. What I did know is that Brain of Pinky and the Brain once tried to "jam the frequencies of every radio station with nothing but Kenny G., Yanni, and the soulful spasms of John Tesh" and use it to "[expose the populace] to these flaccid tonalities [to] soften the cerebral tissue rendering the entire population our personal slaves!"
The Viz:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 04 Dec 2007, 15:31 ---
--- Quote from: The Viz on 04 Dec 2007, 12:46 ---Popularity has nothing to do with quality.
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Not really true. Something which is "good" for what it's doing will always be popular. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is probably the "most popular" post-rock band, and they are very high quality for what they're doing.
Same with shitty pop music. Sure, you may not like it, but for fans of shitty pop, clearly albums which sell so many copies are doing something for somebody.
In conclusion:
--- Quote ---Don't be a hipster snob.
--- End quote ---
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Are you suggesting that Godspeed You! Black Emperor is a popular band? Because while they may be well-known among the scene, their lack of mainstream recognition prohibits them from being called "popular."
I'm not saying that popular = shit or that unknown = Jesuslike, I'm just saying that there are great bands both popular and unpopular and shitty bands both popular and unpopular. To pretend that all popular bands are terrible would imply that popularity is inversely related to quality, whereas I suggest there is no correlation. But no philosophonomics for now.
Automatic for the People was on that list? Damn, must've missed it. Also one of my favorites.
lprkn:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 04 Dec 2007, 12:03 ---Jagged Little Pill has sold as many copies as Sgt. Pepper's?
Holy mother of God, what hapenned, did Alanis give away free blowjobs with every copy?
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Not really much of an incentive, in my opinion.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: The Viz on 04 Dec 2007, 17:05 ---Are you suggesting that Godspeed You! Black Emperor is a popular band?
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Yes, I am. Everyone who likes post-rock likes them, or has heard them, and even a whole lot of people who barely know what post-rock is have heard them. They're as popular as a band of their genre could possibly be.
--- Quote --- Because while they may be well-known among the scene, their lack of mainstream recognition prohibits them from being called "popular."
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But that's the point, here. The "pop music scene" is bigger than the "post-rock scene" and therefore pop music sells more records. It doesn't mean that what you or I think of as "bad" popular music is "bad" because people don't buy albums unless they enjoy them, and if 50 million people enjoy an album, it can not logically be "bad" because those 50 million people think it's "good" and musical taste is not a science in which one can "prove" a band is good or not.
--- Quote ---I'm not saying that popular = shit or that unknown = Jesuslike, I'm just saying that there are great bands both popular and unpopular and shitty bands both popular and unpopular.
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And I'm just saying that if a band sells 50 million albums, they are not "shitty" in any kind of objective way. Do I like The Eagles? No. But clearly they are doing something right for a lot of people. Would most people in America like Neutral Milk Hotel? Incredibly doubtful. Millions of people would listen to Neutral Milk Hotel and say "Wow, that is one shitty band."
I would not presume to tell them I'm right and they're wrong because my taste is somehow better than theirs.
Some people claim to genuinely enjoy the taste of brocolli. I can't fathom this, but I would not use it as evidence that they have defective or inferior taste buds.
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