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Culdcept Saga
« on: 04 Dec 2007, 21:06 »

OK, so I saw the post on Kotaku about the new Culdcept Saga demo hitting Xbox Live earlier today, and the editor was talking about how much he liked the PS2 version, so I thought, 'Well, I might as well check it out'.

It's totally awesome. It's like Monopoly meets an RPG, in the crazy way that only Japan can deliver. It's coming out in North America in February, and if you guys like the demo we should all buy it and have huge 4-player matches online.

Seriously guys, go try the demo, I have spent more time playing it today than Assassin's Creed.
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« Reply #1 on: 04 Dec 2007, 21:15 »

Shit, sounds right up my alley. I'll grab the demo as soon as I get home.
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« Reply #2 on: 05 Dec 2007, 05:30 »

OH FUCK YES!

I played the game on the PS2, and it was so fucking addictive. Though, the music kinda sucked. I hope they changed that.
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Re: Culdcept Saga
« Reply #3 on: 05 Dec 2007, 09:37 »

I first read that title as "Cuddlefest Saga." Now I am disappointed and will not touch that game, with its LIES.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 Dec 2007, 13:19 »

There was a Penny Arcade comic about this at one time. I'll try and find it.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 Dec 2007, 20:22 »

It never really occurred to me to combine Yugi-Oh and Monopoly before, but it works amazingly well!
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Re: Culdcept Saga
« Reply #6 on: 05 Dec 2007, 20:28 »

The good news is that it's only going to cost 40 dollars, or 20 bucks less than the usual 360 game prices. Namco's American website only has 'February 2008' listed as a release date, but Gamestop.com has February 5th listed as the specific day.
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« Reply #7 on: 07 Dec 2007, 09:27 »

hey, this game is actually fun! finally, something on xbox live marketplace i might actually be willing to pay for.
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« Reply #8 on: 07 Dec 2007, 11:05 »

Well, it's not out yet anywhere except Japan. The North American release date is February 5th, 2008, but I don't know anything about a European release.
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Re: Culdcept Saga
« Reply #9 on: 09 Dec 2007, 19:05 »

Man this game combines everything I love about Monopoly with everything I love about M:tG

It also combines everything I hate about Monopoly with everything I hate about M:tG

so uh it is fun but occasionally infuriating I guess?
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« Reply #10 on: 28 Jan 2008, 14:55 »

I am bumping this thread because the game comes out next week. I just preordered it online in a moment of weakness. I got 3 day shipping so I should have it next Friday.
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« Reply #11 on: 28 Jan 2008, 16:54 »

I should be getting it either Thursday or Friday. I mean, it's Amazon, but I can't imagine they have enough pre-orders to have the shipment delayed at all.

I might not exist anywhere but on Live for a week or so.
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« Reply #12 on: 28 Jan 2008, 18:31 »

If nobody else buys it we can just play each other until the end of time.
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« Reply #13 on: 28 Jan 2008, 18:36 »

Getting my Deck all over again :/
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« Reply #14 on: 06 Feb 2008, 13:51 »

And goddamn you amazon, forcing me to get 1 day shipping through Gamestop because you changed my estimated delivery to fucking Feb 13th!

One of these days I will learn not to pre-order from them.
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« Reply #15 on: 06 Feb 2008, 14:14 »

I assume you mean Amazon? And that's why I preorder from Gamestop's online site. I find their constant pimping of the used game market irritating, but they never fail to get me the game on time. My copy should arrive on Friday, because I ordered 3 day shipping. Probably for the best that I won't get it until after all my midterms are turned in.
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« Reply #16 on: 06 Feb 2008, 15:49 »

Yeah, admittedly they got "Metroid Prime 3" and "No More Heros" to me on time, but bleh.

I think I'm gonna have to start looking for those last minute shipping deals from Gamestop for my "NEED RIGHT THE FUCK NOW" titles.
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« Reply #17 on: 06 Feb 2008, 16:24 »

Their deal today is Professor Layton, which I'm considering, because I love Phoenix Wright and the localization is supposed to be excellent. On the other hand I'm not in any burning desire to play it immediately, especially since Apollo Justice cames out the following week and it will devour my soul. I'll probably just wait to see the reception and order it off Amazon with the free but slow shipping like I did with No More Heroes. Generally, I'll do that with games that I know I want to get a copy of before they get hard to find, but that I'm not desperately wanting to play as soon as possible.
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« Reply #18 on: 08 Feb 2008, 15:43 »

Bumping again. Got my copy in the mail today, spent the last hour or so playing it. Beat the first two story missions, I need to edit my deck with the cards I just won but I have to go to class so I won't be able to do it until after I get back. I'll be playing all night and probably most of the weekend if anybody wants to play online.
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Re: Culdcept Saga
« Reply #19 on: 08 Feb 2008, 15:50 »

man, i wanna get this game but i just spent $60 dollars on a game, $30 on books, bought a couple cds, and payed bills. i'm not broke or anything but i'm reluctant to be spending so much money in such a short time.

then again, i have very little willpower.
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« Reply #20 on: 08 Feb 2008, 19:16 »

How the shit do they keep using creature cards as support, but I've never had the option?!?!?!
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« Reply #21 on: 08 Feb 2008, 19:50 »

Only certain cards can use other cards as support. It should say in the description. The fourth story mission is kicking my ass, I think I might to reorganize my deck because I keep ending up with hands without creature cards.
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« Reply #22 on: 08 Feb 2008, 20:28 »

That would certainly explain it.

Damn it, Powder Eaters are fucking adorable.
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« Reply #23 on: 08 Feb 2008, 23:08 »

I finally got out of the Colosseum, only to find that the enemy Cepter in the next mission has magic fucking dice that mean they never land on the squares you've been building levels on, ever.
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« Reply #24 on: 09 Feb 2008, 12:55 »

Right now I'm kinda working the first 2 levels to get a few cards. So far it's workin out pretty well.
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« Reply #25 on: 09 Feb 2008, 15:56 »

That's actually what I've been doing as well. I'm starting to build a Blue/Yellow deck that is working pretty well, I might give it another shot soon. Taking a break for right now, though.
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« Reply #26 on: 09 Feb 2008, 17:33 »

Any clue if there is a limit to the number of specific cards you can have in a deck? There has to be, otherwise I have a fairly obvious long term deck that would just be hilarious.

EDIT - I just made that little shit Ticomun give up 8 different territories to pay his toll. That was such a wonderful feeling.
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« Reply #27 on: 10 Feb 2008, 11:52 »

I need to buy this. It's been too long since I screamed at the TV in frustration.
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« Reply #28 on: 10 Feb 2008, 12:20 »

You'll start making new expletives to fit the mood.

Some of the better ones you'll shout are actually when you screw over an opponent in a spectacular manner!
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« Reply #29 on: 19 Feb 2008, 08:20 »

This is one of the best and most addictive games I have ever played.  Jeph, others, you need to get this.  I can't express how good it gets once you get some of the better cards and can really start to fashion your deck into a potent weapon.  I'm about 10 hours into the single player, at the part where the princess gets kidnapped, and have received some powerful wind/sand cards like Sphinx, Lord of Bane, and Leveller, and I'm playing a deck heavy on growing creatures (e.g. dragon eggs, those wind creatures that turn into the bird things that grow more powerful with more wind creatures).

Storm, others, let's play online, my name is imperialstout.  If anyone has any questions getting started just pm me.

That would certainly explain it.

Damn it, Powder Eaters are fucking adorable.

I have a complicated relationship with powder eaters.  On the one hand, they are not only really cute but really effective in concept since you can exchange them the next time around after you've replicated them using revelation.  On the other hand, I've fielded them in 10 different games, and 9 times out of 10 they were zapped or magic bolted within 2 rounds of being played.  Hilarious.

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I finally got out of the Colosseum, only to find that the enemy Cepter in the next mission has magic fucking dice that mean they never land on the squares you've been building levels on, ever.

The IGN review, which was so shitty I refuse to link it on principle, made a completely false accusation about the AI opponents playing with loaded dice.  10 hours in I'm convinced this isn't true, and from a look at the forums I'm not the only one.  For every time that I've rolled to "1s" and landed on two consecutive 2100 tolls with no creature cards in my hand, I've had an AI land on my level 5 volcanic dragon, hit a fort and turn around and land on the dragon again, then get backwards cast on him by my ally to land on the dragon a third time in three consecutive rounds for a total toll of about 5000 MP for me. 

This is an issue that often comes up in dice rolling video games, and it's a fair concern just for all the video games that make up for crap AI with obvious and somewhat excessive cheating (any of you ever play Might & Magic Heroes V on heroic??)  Oddly, a system where you occasionally get completely and unfairly screwed (by say not drawing a creature card for the first 4 rounds in a deck with 60% creature cards, or having your opponents land on their land among 6 of yours for three times) is quite possibly working correctly, because in a truly random system, you're occasionally going to get horribly unlucky.  In other words, a system where you're never screwed is a system that's not random.
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« Reply #30 on: 19 Feb 2008, 10:33 »

I've totally hit a wall in the single player campaign. You fight Drachma's sister in the mission after finishing the 3 trials, and she has an incredibly fucking annoying deck with 4 (!) Mesozoic Songs in it, which basically means every one of her creatures is a Tyrannosaurus the majority of the time. I'm convinced I need more Paladins/Mothmen/Banishing Rays to make a deck that will adequately counter it so right now I'm farming past stages for more cards. When I'm not playing No More Heroes or Professor Layton, at least.

I usually just skip evolving Sylphs and put Garudas directly in my deck (I have two), because it costs less to deploy them that way and the land limit isn't a big deal since they're only really useful when you have a bunch of Wind creatures on the field anyway. I also just got the Lightning Dragon, I roll with a Blue/Yellow deck so I'm working out a way to fit it in. I've never even seen a Powder Eater, so I have no idea what they do.

But I would definitely be up for an online match if we can figure out a time when everyone is around. From the few times I've seen Jeph online I've gathered that his sleep schedule is completely asynchronous with people who go to school or don't work from home. Ackblom and I are online at the same time fairly often but we found out (not for lack of trying) that you unfortunately can't add AI bots to a private online match. It makes sense that you wouldn't be able to with a ranked match, but I don't see why they left that feature out for player/private matches. Oh well.
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« Reply #31 on: 21 Feb 2008, 09:17 »

I finished that level with a y/b deck without banishing rays, paladins or mothmen.  In fact, I'm a few levels after that and I sttll haven't picked up any banishing rays or paladins (I haven't farmed at all yet).  I used Sylph/Garudas, a dragon egg, lord of bane, a few levellers, 2 crushers, an anubis, Fontaciel, and a few mana spells.  Also, storm armors are very important for obvious reasons.  I find that with a deck like that, even if you're down at the beginning you'll eventually win because the Garudas, Anubis, Fontaciel and the storm armors will keep scaling up until they become essentially win cards, and because the AI is so weak.  Just drop off a high str creature like gryphon or lord of bane next the AIs level 5 land and waiting until they have no defense items and you have a tonfa,  storm armor, or even a scroll, then cast telegnosis and move on the level 5 land.  Rinse and repeat.

The level after that is huge and much harder (at least if you take the fork I did) so you have something to look forward to!
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« Reply #32 on: 21 Feb 2008, 12:10 »

I don't have ANY Storm Armor, which pisses me off royally. I do have an Anubias, a Leveller, and a Lord of Bane. The Lord of Bane has never worked its way into my deck because it always seems too expensive to be worthwhile, but I haven't looked at it in a while. I'll probably get more time to play over the weekend, so I'll see if I can tweak my deck a little and try again.
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« Reply #33 on: 21 Feb 2008, 16:31 »

I'm so in love with this game.

My only issue right now is that I'm getting to the point where I'm getting lots and lots of copies every time I win a match. Last couple matches, more than half of the cards I got were copies, none of which I wanted.

Storm Armor is amazing though.
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« Reply #34 on: 24 Feb 2008, 17:23 »

Yeah, without farming that's going to happen to you a lot.  I just beat it and didn't even get to see many of the best cards.  Definitely it's virtually impossible to make any sort of deck other than a color creature deck unless you farm.

Anyway, great game, who's up for some multiplayer some time during the week?
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« Reply #35 on: 24 Feb 2008, 18:59 »

I might be busy with schoolwork, but I should finish Apollo Justice pretty soon so I'll have time for Culdcept before Brawl comes out. Send me a PM or a message on xbox.com or something if you guys work a time out and I'll see if I can be online then.
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« Reply #36 on: 24 Feb 2008, 20:42 »

I'm currently on the last trial and I'm so fucking frustrated it's ridiculous.

The last 4 times I've went for the last fortress, I step on the goddamn warp point and warp backwards.

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!

EDIT - Make that 5 6 godfuckingdamnit.
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« Reply #37 on: 25 Feb 2008, 07:19 »

Holy word 6-8 are your friend :)
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« Reply #38 on: 25 Feb 2008, 16:06 »

At that point I'd already used all of the ones available in my deck. I have beaten it though!

Drachma quite literally died in a fire! It was like a wish come true!
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« Reply #39 on: 18 Mar 2008, 10:05 »

bump because i finally bought this game yesterday. i'm still on something like the second level or something so i don't have much cool stuff but my gamertag's 'Captain Dino' for future reference.
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