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Poll: Do you see Marten and Dora's relationship lasting?

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Rocketman:
Quite honestly, I hate Dora now. And I think Marten should get the hell out of the relationship as soon as he can.

Dora's apologizing after her insecure spazz-outs isn't the QC-people-confess-quicker, she's covering. That part of her brain that sleeps the rest of the time suddenly kicks in with a "WAIT! If I antagonize him too much, he'll really leave me! OMGISORRYISORRY boohoohoo"

I mean, goddamn, Dora just bitched about Marten having girlfriends ten years ago on the other side of the fucking continent. Insecurity is one thing, this is fucking possession. It's not cute, it's not funny, and Marten should get the fuck out of there before it devolves into Dora bitching that he's spending too much time with anyone who's not her.

Apple Pie:
I think Marten and Dora could possibly last...I remember reading somewhere that "soul-mates" are meant to look like one another...and so therefore an ideal couple comprises of two people who look exactly the same, just different gender (or same gender, if that's the way you are.) So by THAT token...hell yeah, Marten and Dora are going to be together for life.

That said, what I read could have just been new age mumbo jumbo, and may not apply to the world of ficitional characters.

I think they make a good couple. Will they be together forever and ever and ever and ever? I dunno. Trust seems to be an issue at the moment. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Miche:
Yay me. I registered just so I could comment on this question.


--- Quote from: Apple Pie on 03 Feb 2008, 14:37 ---I remember reading somewhere that "soul-mates" are meant to look like one another...and so therefore an ideal couple comprises of two people who look exactly the same, just different gender (or same gender, if that's the way you are.)
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Just a quick comment on this first. I remember looking at the Mona Lisa either in some art class... or maybe it was a television program on the Discovery channel... but they compared her face to Leonardo da Vinci's face and pointed out how they looked the same, thus illustrating that you're really just attracted to yourself. :P

Okay, so... I'm of a mixed opinion when it comes to Marten and Dora.

Clearly, Dora has some issues. But we all do, so that's no surprise. What worries me is that she does seem to be a bit of a control freak. I mean, yeah, she's somewhat paranoid and rather insecure, but it does look like she's dealing with that somewhat. And that's definitely not grounds for "get the hell out OMG." I know I get stupid-paranoid, relationship or not. We've all got insecurities. And to boot, I hate conflict, so when something bad comes up, I'm prone to stewing and withdrawing until all Hell breaks loose. That being said, I at least know that I do that, which gives me the ability to recognize when it's happening and try to do something to break those trends. I think Dora's in the same boat. It just takes her longer to realize what she's doing. So I don't think that's grounds for a breakup, especially if she's actively trying to be less of a basket-case. :P

That being said, I don't know if I really like them as a couple. But I'm probably biased. I mean, they do seem pretty happy together when Dora's not having one of her little freak-out sessions, but seeing Dora get as bitchy as I have, I like her less and less. And the less I like her, the more I think Marten could do better. Granted, I'm one of those people who kind of always wanted to see Marten and Faye get together, but that's probably more because Faye reminds me a lot of myself (without the excessive drinking and punching people :P), and Marten reminds me of the boys I tend to be attracted to. So my subconscious would be really happy if they got together. But I don't know if that would be good for anyone.

In the scheme of this being a comic, it would probably be better for the story if Dora and Marten were to break up at some point, but, if we're just thinking of them as people and looking at them outside the context of it being for entertainment, then yeah, I could see Dora and Marten staying together. But I think Dora really needs to put forth some effort into figuring out WHY she's behaving the way she is, or at least recognizing it when it comes on so she can do something to counteract her negative impulses.

Naoko:

--- Quote from: Apple Pie on 03 Feb 2008, 14:37 ---I think Marten and Dora could possibly last...I remember reading somewhere that "soul-mates" are meant to look like one another...and so therefore an ideal couple comprises of two people who look exactly the same, just different gender (or same gender, if that's the way you are.) So by THAT token...hell yeah, Marten and Dora are going to be together for life.

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What about different race? :( Hah, I do believe in soul mates, but not that they look like each other, considering my boyfriend being Asian and me being a redhead. Doesn't really work. Hahah. XD

But actually, the look-alike thing is creepy. It feels more like they're incestuous, as if they were brother and sister in a past life or something. Creepy. Don't like it. What happened to opposites attract?

Besides, if Dora had the chance, she'd totally date Marten's mom instead of him. She's only with him for a chance at his mom. I'M CEREAL, GUYSZ.

Okay, seriously now. I do absolutely HATE the Dora-Marten relationship, but I think Dora's insecurities are pretty normal. I think a lot of people, especially girls, do get these insecurities, and sometimes it's a phase. Some people are just really jealous. If Marten loves her and Dora loves him, that shouldn't hurt their relationship as long as she actually trusts him. Jealousy and trust are not the same thing, and little fights are healthy for a relationship. If they had NEVER had ANY problems whatsoever since they'd got together, I'd be getting pretty excited, because it would probably mean they weren't going to last. That kind of thing doesn't happen in a normal, happy, healthy relationship. Fighting and insecurities are NORMAL, and I don't think Dora's doing it all that often.

And you've got to admit, it would be really awkward for a minute after hearing that your boyfriend still has some feelings for a girl he dated before. Who wants their boyfriend to be thinking about past loves? It's not something to fight over, but it IS something that might give a girl a sad feeling in her heart for a few seconds. I'd say that's pretty normal, too.

EDIT - But I still want them to break up. The best breakup ever would be Marten catching Dora trying to coerce his mother into having sex with her. Seriously. I so want Dora to do something like that.

tomart:
I like Dora, she's cool, smart, realistic (usually) and she seems good to and with Marten, but I guess I was hooked long ago by Faye's mutual attraction with Marten. Indeed, I think they're so obviously well-matched that that became the reason Jeph didn't/couldn't hook them up.  Sophisto-critics were posting "too obvious", "too trite" comments, and, admittedly, their tension is a potent dramatic fuel.

My subconscious would be pleased, too, if Marten and Faye get together. And I'll dare to theorize that someday in the far future, maybe something will happen to Dora and that will wrap up the grand QC arc.

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