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Poll: Do you see Marten and Dora's relationship lasting?

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Scruffy:

--- Quote from: AngelofShadows on 03 Feb 2008, 09:12 ---I think Hanners is going to overcome her OCD and Steal Martin away from Dora so they can form a two person band that doesn't suck

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That would be awesome.  They could name it, "The Band That Doesn't Suck"!  I bet Hanners will come up with the name!

Is it cold in here?:
Dora's getting into the age range for settling down. It might last because of that. On the other hand, what does she see in Marten? "He's a skinny indie dude" is not an adequate foundation for a lasting relationship.

raoullefere:
Dora's real problem, I suspect, is that while she really hasn't stolen Mwrten from Faye (you can't steal what someone else puts in the dumpster), she has done some relationship breaking in the past. Sven indicates this early on. "That's never stopped you before," he comments when she says she doesn't want to risk hurting Faye. Dora'd not be the first person to allow something she'd done in a past relationship ruin her current one. Hell, I know that, an' I don't even watch Ooprah.

If she can face her real guilt, Dora and Martrn will last. If she can't, Dora will likely break them up in penance for her past misdeed(s), even if she doesn;t realize she's doing so.

As for MArten, he seems to pretty much mean what he says. If Faye does get better, I don't see him dumping Dora for her. But I can see Dora dumping him to 'let him make a choice,' not acknowledging that at that point Maten won't have one. If that happens, Dora will insist everyone is welcome at CoD, which will have become her penitential cell. Maybe she can dig up a tawse from her kink closet and self-flagellate.

(Yeah, I know, but my subconscious wants me to misspell Martn, apparently. Ooprah, OTH, is intentional. Confusion to Oprah! Death to Phil! Pancakes for everyone!)

tomart:

--- Quote from: raoullefere on 05 Feb 2008, 00:51 ---If she can face her real guilt, Dora and Martrn will last. If she can't, Dora will likely break them up in penance for her past misdeed(s), even if she doesn;t realize she's doing so.
 ...my subconscious wants me to misspell Martn, apparently.

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Deeper parts of our brains are doing things we aren't aware of (blind spots) or would even deny (denial) as we struggle with our inner (demons) shit.

Perhaps "soul-mates" looking alike, is some deep, ancient evolutionary mechanism at work, finding unexplainable but powerful comfort in a close genetic match... "You look like family! Let's be family!"  (Or, as Miche said, maybe you're really just attracted to yourself...)  :-)

[Marten and Dora] "...compliment each other much better than Marten and Faye would."  I'd say Dora would complement almost anyone quite well. She's smart, well-balanced and -adjusted, realistic, knows what she wants and needs, seems loyal and honest, and knows to keep the power in the relationship approximately balanced; I think she's a keeper, and good for Marten.

That having been said, I still like Faye/Marten. Even though Faye would be in control (like she has been all along.) Many good relationships have the power on one side (we all learn how that works as children) - that's fine as long as both are ok with that. Sometimes that evens out somewhat over the long term, as the inhibited one matures.

So I think this is what dooms my naive polygyny fantasy - almost impossible to reach a stable power balance.  I think it was Frank Herbert who said the triangle is the most unstable political structure. God, i miss him; why do the brilliant ones have to die? John Lennon, Frank Zappa, Philip K. Dick.

Edit:  Department of Gender Studies:  I think we have to ultimately admit men and women don't think and feel alike. I've always been all for equality, but sometimes Truth trumps our most fervent wishes. Just another case in point:
Male: "Dora just bitched about Marten having girlfriends ten years ago on the other side of the fucking continent. Insecurity is one thing, this is fucking possession."
Female: "u've got to admit, it would be really awkward for a minute after hearing that your boyfriend still has some feelings for a girl he dated before. Who wants their boyfriend to be thinking about past loves? It's not something to fight over, but it IS something that might give a girl a sad feeling in her heart for a few seconds."

raoullefere:
The tripod, Tomart. Herbert said the tripod is the most unstable political structure. A bit of a difference. A love triangle is actually pretty stable. That's why it's used to describe irresolvable romantic entanglements betwen three people—the idea is that the whole thing will never be resolved.

Never heard of a love tripod, although I'm sure some reader who's into bondage can tell us all about it.

Dune nut, Buffyverse analyst, Bloom county maniac, and now QC adict—where do my pop culture obsessions end?

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