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Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: Statik on 02 Jan 2008, 11:46 ---So there is a million cookie cutter bands out there... and theres a lot of creative, original, and interesting bands that wont get a good deal, if they get a deal at all, because they arent what the fickle american population is attracted to at that particular moment.
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OK, I don't know what in the Christ you're talking about now. Just for clarity, are you aware that there are things called "independant record labels" and that having a "record deal" on an "independant record label" in no way implies that you'll be "making a living" off your music?
Because that's what you said. You said "If you can get a record deal, you can make a living off music."
The fact that most bands on indie labels still have day jobs disproves that statement.
I'm not even arguing with you, here. You're just actually wrong.
Statik:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 02 Jan 2008, 11:56 ---
--- Quote from: Statik on 02 Jan 2008, 11:46 ---So there is a million cookie cutter bands out there... and theres a lot of creative, original, and interesting bands that wont get a good deal, if they get a deal at all, because they arent what the fickle american population is attracted to at that particular moment.
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OK, I don't know what in the Christ you're talking about now. Just for clarity, are you aware that there are things called "independant record labels" and that having a "record deal" on an "independant record label" in no way implies that you'll be "making a living" off your music?
Because that's what you said. You said "If you can get a record deal, you can make a living off music."
The fact that most bands on indie labels still have day jobs disproves that statement.
I'm not even arguing with you, here. You're just actually wrong.
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Um, actually its NOT what I said (and you actually QUOTED THE LINE BEFORE), and yes I am aware of independant record labels, just as I am aware that a HUGE amount of the metal bands I listen to from Scandinavia and Finland and Iceland and Russia and wherever the fuck else still have day jobs.
You are telling me that, unless you are some superstar musician / band, you arent making money playing music, alternatively, cannot make a LIVING playing music. I PERSONALLY know people who are making a living playing music, playing ORIGINAL music, with NO record deal. I've had friends who HAVE had a record deal and could barely afford food every night because they were busy blowing their money on pot and beer every day.
I'm simply saying: Making music is not a GUARANTEED losing proposition (Even today, with people downloading music) and touring is not a GUARANTEED losing proposition, even for "smaller" or "local" acts.
This is seemingly inches away from falling into the same stupid argument I would have with artist (painter / photographer / sculptor ) friends. Where it got to this point where if you were actually SUCCESSFUL with your art, you were somehow less of an artist. That if you could actually make a living doing something that you enjoyed doing, such as painting, that your work was somehow devalued by being put in a major gallery, or sold for profit.
There are musicians with day jobs who dont make a living playing music. There are ones who do. And your record contract, national (or international) standing would HOPEFULLY affect that, but it isn't always the case. Thats it.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: Statik on 02 Jan 2008, 12:25 ---You are telling me that, unless you are some superstar musician / band, you arent making money playing music, alternatively, cannot make a LIVING playing music.
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Um, no, I never said that. Lurk more. Learn to keep in mind who has posted what instead of replying to me in response to things that other people have implied (which you've done at least twice now).
I know people who make a living from music, too. Most of them lose money or break even on touring, though. That's about the only thing I ever originally said, was a refutation of the often-quoted and very-wrong urban legend that bands "make money from touring".
Statik:
--- Quote from: zerodrone on 02 Jan 2008, 12:53 ---
--- Quote from: Statik on 02 Jan 2008, 12:25 ---You are telling me that, unless you are some superstar musician / band, you arent making money playing music, alternatively, cannot make a LIVING playing music.
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Um, no, I never said that. Lurk more. Learn to keep in mind who has posted what instead of replying to me in response to things that other people have implied (which you've done at least twice now).
I know people who make a living from music, too. Most of them lose money or break even on touring, though. That's about the only thing I ever originally said, was a refutation of the often-quoted and very-wrong urban legend that bands "make money from touring".
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So then how do they make money? Local shows? Independant record sales?
I'll try and keep in mind that Im not allowed to have an opinion or personal experience until I have a thousand posts.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: Statik on 02 Jan 2008, 13:14 ---So then how do they make money? Local shows? Independant record sales?
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Yes.
--- Quote ---I'll try and keep in mind that Im not allowed to have an opinion or personal experience until I have a thousand posts.
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No, just keep in mind that you should not put words in my mouth. I'm not one of the people in this thread who has said that musicians can't make a living off music. In two separate posts you argued with me about things I never even said or implied, but that OTHER people did say or imply.
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