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Do you buy music?

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a pack of wolves:
No, not all musicians need a good day job as well as supplemental income from music. I have neither and probably never will but over the years I've accumulated most of the bits and bobs I need. I'm not saying this is the case for anyone else of course, by the sound of it what you do zerodrone is far more equipment-intensive so you do need that money, just that not everyone needs that to make the best music they can. I doubt I will ever release something where the cost is not purely that of the materials and labour of making the record and possibly studio time. Sure, a little extra to help offset the cost of touring, playing gigs and equipment would be nice but I can't see it ever happening and this is fine with me.

As for those downloaders representing a loss of income this may not be the case. Downloaders aren't necessarily people who would have bought the physical record at all. There are those like me who will buy a different record because they downloaded something but still the total amount of money going to bands remains the same. Then there are those who simply wouldn't have bought that many records at all. Sure, they'd have bought a few but possibly not that many. Also, a lot of people mention spending the money in their budget earmarked for music on going to gigs instead of records. They're still loss-making ventures for most people, yes, but as much as they would be without internet downloads? I'm not so sure, there have been plenty of bands I've seen that I wouldn't have bothered about if it weren't for the fact that I'd downloaded their music. Also, I always end up thinking about 'MTV Get Off The Air' when the fall in total sales comes up:
'But sales are slumping
And no one will say why
Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?'

The best part about downloads is that more people are listening to what you made. I like that. Just think, maybe something you or I did will get reviewed somewhere and some kid in Malaysia will then grab it from soulseek. Amazing! Who cares if they never bought a record? Maybe they used the cash to buy a drum kit and make something cool of their own. I call that a fair trade.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 30 Dec 2007, 12:18 ---Is helping the industry necessarily a good thing?

--- End quote ---

Almost certainly not! The music industry is horrible.

Hell, those two words together, 'music' and 'industry'...just no.

Unless we mean:



Also, is anyone else kind of pissed off when people who mainly buy go on about how only they love music? I fucking live for music. Thats why I download so much. I cannot see any other feasible way I could have discovered most of my favourite artists. I've never seen even a specialist store that sells Blood Axis.

Also, the back catalogues of a lot of my favourite artists are partly, or largely, out of print. So downloading is the only way to hear them apart from second hand records, which are surely worse than downloading, because someone is making money off of it and not a penny goes to the band.

a pack of wolves:
Yeah, that's another good point. I've got quite a thing for old emo bands like The Hated and Guyver-One and the only way to get their physical records is to pay crazy money on ebay. Fuck that, I'm not paying £70 for an LP no matter how good, and I can't see how the downloading resources to get those records would realistically exist if they weren't also used by people for piracy of available records.

As a tool for DIY distribution file sharing is superior to record shops any day of the week. If it's a choice between the two then it's DIY for me every time, and if that means no more record sales then that's that (although I really can't see that happening in my lifetime).

the-artful-dodger-rodger:
I buy my music, sometimes you cant beat cool album cover art and I like owning something real as a cd.

I usually buy my music at amazon/barnes noble or cd baby

besides dont worry the music industry is dying, a slow painful death.

Ryder:
I was curious about how people stand on this, too.

I buy records if I find a good store, but usually it's just a bunch of Norah Jones and Arcade Fire displays, and gaggles of hipster kids. A lot of my library is borrowed cds, but if I really follow a band, I buy their cd no matter what. Mostly as a donation to them, but it's also pretty nice to have something to hold in your hands. To claim as your own! iTunes Music Store is nice convenience sometimes. The selection is better than a record store, but sometimes they just don't have what your looking for. Paypalling ten bucks to buy the cd from the band is usually what I'd do if they're too underground for iTunes, which they usually are.

I just don't think music should be as hoarded as it is, I'm really pro music sharing. Not with copywrited junk, but I always try to explain to musician friends and stuff how important it is to start sharing themselves instead of having torrent sites do it for them behind their backs. I mean, I don't know if anyone's heard of CASH Music, or the last 50 Foot Wave EP Free Music, but it's a really great idea to share your music yourself. It's really worth it to have music available to everyone.

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