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Definition of "Heavy"

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a pack of wolves:
Dopesmoker isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's good, yeah, but it's a bit overrated.

To attempt to describe heavy, and to give you more bands that you really need to hear before you die, listen to:
Iron Monkey - http://www.myspace.com/survivaloftheshittest
Stalingrad - http://www.myspace.com/therealstalingrad 
Corrupted - http://www.dxmxtx.com/corrupted/
Noothgrush - http://www.myspace.com/noothgrush
Discharge's early stuff - http://youtube.com/watch?v=6aYMCnwq9Gg
I think that lot reasonably sums up what comes to my mind when somebody says the word heavy. I'm not sure how to articulate it at all, you could start talking about volume and bass but I think that would somewhat miss the point and wouldn't explain why, to my ears, Shellac are a very heavy band.

De_El:
Yeah, generally I think the quality of "heavy" as being really low frequency and gut-rattling, like Sunn O)) is heavy as fuck. Of course, you have to be playing it loud enough and with the bass high enough for anything to sound heavy.

Also Dopesmoker is tops. Sleep, in general, is tops.

Doom and drone metal pretty much strive to be the heaviest, and often are, but there are some tech/math metal bands that are in the running.

Spluff:
Electric. Wizard.

The fact that this hadn't been posted yet was so mind numbingly shocking that I was forced out of the dark depths of lurkerdom. I'm disappointed in you all.

a pack of wolves:
I always preferred Warhorse myself, seem to remember seeing them together and being more impressed by them. Electric Wizard are pretty good though.


--- Quote from: De_El on 07 Jan 2008, 20:45 ---Yeah, generally I think the quality of "heavy" as being really low frequency and gut-rattling, like Sunn O)) is heavy as fuck. Of course, you have to be playing it loud enough and with the bass high enough for anything to sound heavy.

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I never think that's all of it though, intensity and what's actually being played always play a part for me when I think of something as heavy or not. Like Swans (damn, how have we managed to avoid mentioning them yet?), I had some on just now quietly and through shitty laptop speakers with sod all bass. It was still damn heavy though. Same goes for Unsane, when I saw them earlier this year they were absolutely crushing and one of the heaviest things I've ever seen but I don't think it was actually all that loud.

De_El:
That's true. I didn't mean to over-simplify. Swans are positively punishing and I don't know if you'd even call them metal.  Godflesh was really heavy in a similar way too, at least for the first album. Gotta keep in mind though, intensity is a lot harder to convey over speakers than it is in concert. A band that can pull it off is truly great and (potentially) heavy.

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