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Folk Music and the Environment
KvP:
That still doesn't explain why I shouldn't consume the "organic" products that are supposed to be acquired outside the factory farming system.
ampersandwitch:
FDA labels like "organic" and "free range" are technical terms. Organic food only applies to whether or not they were genetically modified or given routine antibiotics or hormones. Free range means that the animal gets to see daylight. It is not specified how often. These two terms even in tandem do not really suggest to me a humanely raised food object.
Sometimes the labels lie. Horizon, I know, has come under fire for their "organic" milk which is apparently nothing of the sort.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: ampersandwitch on 14 Jan 2008, 23:16 ---Nor do we know why some people still deny the almost irrefutable correlation between a diet heavy in red meat and heart disease.
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As much as I would be totally gay for an argument about the FDA, the AMA and the dubious nature of everything that people claim we "know" about food and the human body's workings in general this is the Music Forum and oh, also, I am seriously not gay for having that discussion because it's like talking to an atheist, ie roughly as much fun as repeatedly flinging oneself into piles of dogshit.
(But I will say this: I don't "deny" your reality, I "accept" different ones. There is more in Heaven and Earth than is dreamt of in your science, etc.)
ampersandwitch:
I would be totally gay for your post as well (which I noticed, by the way, is appropriately music themed, considering this is the Music Talk forum), but unfortunately, I find dismissive ad hominem arguments to be infantile and irritating.
KvP:
While it's true that there's no real sort of regulation or standardization for organic products, and the "organic" label is thrown around more as a means of justifying higher prices than anything else, there have to be ways to research a company's policy in regard to its treatment of its animals. The relevant question would be, if it were the case that if you were to come across humanely acquired products, would you feel justified in consuming them? If not, there have to be other premises to the vegan argument needed to justify it.
We're sort of getting off-topic in that the context of discussion is no longer centered on Earth Crisis, but it's kind of sort of addressing the merits of Earth Crisis' cause.
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