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Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Jan 2008, 11:45 ---Your problem, really, is that you're still refusing to acknowledge the difference between subjective and objective reality. You keep conflating them, and claiming that subjective experience is part of objective reality.
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Actually, I reject the notion of an objective reality existing at all.
I think you are misinterpreting nearly all of what I am saying.
KvP:
That's... interesting. And also wrong. There are different kinds of objective existence. The concept of numbers may not be physical, but 2+2=4 is objectively true. To question that is well stupid, and a great way to show that you are a fundamentally irrational person. That's a different sort of argument than saying this computer is "real", but still. There are objective things. I'm what you'd probably call a "dumb realist", in that I hold that all things that I perceive in a normal state are objectively real.
Jackie Blue:
There is no such thing as objective reality because there is no way to measure it.
The only reality I acknowledge is the information I am presented. I have no way of knowing it is not all a hallucination.
No one can define reality, let alone "objective" reality.
KvP:
How would you measure objective reality, then? How do you know the proof you would need isn't a hallucination? Is it just an infinite regress? Your problem is irrational, and thus ignorable.
Jackie Blue:
I don't have a problem, I have a philosophical position, one shared by a lot of other people.
There simply is no way to measure reality. There likely never will be. All I know about reality is that it appears to be a system of data that is presented to my consciousness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_tunnel
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