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KvP:
Oh, Timothy Leary. And Robert Anton Wilson. I get it.
E. Spaceman:
While i suscribe to the classical notion of the incapability of percieving objective reality in an objective way. I do find a lot of the tenets of reality tunnel thinking laughable. You will never see outside the tunnel, you'll just look into another tunnel.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: E. Spaceman on 30 Jan 2008, 15:08 ---You will never see outside the tunnel, you'll just look into another tunnel.
--- End quote ---
Er, that's rather the point? Nothing Leary, McKenna, Wilson et al say would disagree with that. Some of them just think that it's possibly more useful to observe life through various different tunnels instead of just staying comfortably in one all the time.
KharBevNor:
reading comprehension 101. See if you can spot the crucial mistake that is being made above.
First, zerodrone says there is no objective reality! then he says he ascribes to the reality tunnel notion. Now read the wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_tunnel
The theory states that, with a subconscious set of mental "filters" formed from their beliefs and experiences, every individual interprets this same world differently, hence "Truth is in the eye of the beholder".
This is not necessarily meant to imply that there is no objective truth; rather that our access to it is mediated through our senses, experience, conditioning, prior beliefs, and other non-objective factors. The individual world each person occupies is said to be their reality tunnel. The term can also apply to groups of people united by beliefs: we can speak of the fundamentalist Muslim reality tunnel or the scientific materialist reality tunnel.
A parallel can be seen in the psychological concept of confirmation bias - our tendency to notice and assign significance to observations that confirm our beliefs, while filtering out or rationalizing away observations that do not fit with our prior beliefs and expectations. This helps to explain why reality tunnels are usually transparent to their inhabitants. While it seems most people take their beliefs to correspond to the "one true objective reality," Robert Anton Wilson emphasizes that each person's reality tunnel is their own artistic creation, whether they realize it or not.
This is...pretty much what I was saying up the page about subjective and objective reality, except for two factors:
1) I don't get all my philosophy of Robert Anton Wilson
2) I understand it.
Jackie Blue:
I don't get my philosophy from RAW either.
And yes, it would be more useful for me to say that, while an objective reality may exist, we can never prove it does or does not.
Much like God.
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