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Folk Music and the Environment
Johnny C:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 15 Jan 2008, 05:57 ---Guys this is the music forum.
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MUSIC IS MURDER
supersheep:
--- Quote from: Kid van Pervert on 14 Jan 2008, 22:01 ---I just find veganism to be silly. Vegetarianism, that's fine, since it's grounded in fairly simple utilitarian ethics.
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This seems to be the wrong way round to me. I can understand veganism, because it is opposed to all forms of exploitation of animals. Vegetarianism, though, finds it perfectly acceptable to force animals to permanently lactate so we can drink their milk? That's pretty cruel. As for anti-cruelty-to-animals meat-eaters, isn't killing an animal cruelty just as much as hurting it is? Veganism seems like the only internally coherent attitude to me.
I still eat meat.
amok:
no, see, we have to kill some of them so that they don't overpopulate and die
they're coming right for us!
ALoveSupreme:
--- Quote from: supersheep on 15 Jan 2008, 12:09 ---This seems to be the wrong way round to me. I can understand veganism, because it is opposed to all forms of exploitation of animals. Vegetarianism, though, finds it perfectly acceptable to force animals to permanently lactate so we can drink their milk?
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Not to mention continuing to kill them to use their hides for belts, shoes, car seats, or their bones and organs for toothpaste, beauty products, etc. A vegetarian that is so for ethical reasons would be unfortunately hypocritical.
Jackie Blue:
--- Quote from: ALoveSupreme on 15 Jan 2008, 08:33 ---if it's there and we can, than we should eat it.
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Well, we are omnivores.
So long as humans continue to be the way we are, the unfortunate truth is that exploitation of the planet - animals included - is pretty much necessary. We've put ourselves on a path with little other choice. How many things died for my Internet connection?
Don't worry, soon we'll have nano-assemblers and it won't really matter.
Pun not intended.
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