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The Cure
« on: 19 Jan 2008, 04:21 »

Driving down to go and get pizza there was a Cure song on the radio. I really kinda liked it. I've forgotten what it was called but I think it was from an album that had "Kiss Me" in the title. Then I got to thinking about how I've liked a lot of the Cure that I've heard but I've never really given them much of a listen with any intent. A quick search of the forums turns up no discussion of them or where to start and there appears to be no entry for them in the most informative music thread ever (which I was really tempted to raise).

So where do I start? I liked that song that I heard if you can figure out a sort of sound from the album, and I really liked The Shout Out Louds' Tonight I Have to Leave It track. I like the Achewood where Ray carves 'The Cure' into a piece of driftwood and gives it to Beef. I like Casiotone for the Painfully Alone and I like Joy Division. Where should I look after The Cure?

Best album? Most typical album? Things you like about the Cure?
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #1 on: 19 Jan 2008, 04:26 »

The Cure have some good albums, some bad ones, and a lot of albums that are exactly the same. That's as much as I know!
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #2 on: 19 Jan 2008, 06:36 »

I really like the cure. Get Head On the Door.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #3 on: 19 Jan 2008, 06:43 »

Yeah, Head on the Door's great. Disintegration is a classic, too, though possibly a bit overlong.

Also, this is the album you're thinking of.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #4 on: 19 Jan 2008, 07:07 »

the cure is awsum
disappointing that alot of people DON'T like the cure when they are probably the most anti-commercial band around, including all you "the shin's fetish freaks"

they absolutely refuse paid sponsers for their tours, refuse to  put their songs in commercials and such forth and such forth and robert smith has a real deep sense of what music is all about

plus the cure's musics pretty good, disintigration rocks
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #5 on: 19 Jan 2008, 08:50 »

and a lot of albums that are exactly the same.

This cannot be emphasised enough. Like tommy said, get a best-of then maybe look into the albums with your favourite tracks on. If you try and take on the whole discog or even the 'best' few albums, you're in for a lot of the same damn song.

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Re: The Cure
« Reply #6 on: 19 Jan 2008, 09:02 »

My favourite album by them is Disintegration, followed by Pornography. 

I would reccomend starting with Disintegration, it's one of those rare albums where every song is good, or at least above average (best tracks: Plainsong, Pictures of You, Lovesong, Lullaby, Fascination Street).  After Disintegration, I would recommend downloading Staring at the Sea, because it's a good overview of what came before Disintegration.  The only reason I don't recommend downloading it first, is because it came out before Disintegration.

I uploaded Three Imaginary Boys in the mediafire thread, although that album sounds almost nothing like anything else they ever did.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #7 on: 19 Jan 2008, 12:54 »

I like them, but I think they're quite uneven. I think of them more as a source of good singles really than albums.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #8 on: 19 Jan 2008, 13:04 »

Do all their albums sound the same?  I mean, they all have Robert Smith sounding mopey, but I hardly think that Pornography and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me sound identical (not to mention the stuff they recorded pre-"Boys Don't Cry."  Come to think of it, some songs on all their albums might sound the same to some, but the standout tracks are often a bit more varied.
Staring at the Sea is a really good singles collection, and a good intro.  Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is a nice kinda spacey pop album--the big hit off of it ("Just Like Heaven," man I like the Dinosaur Jr. cover a lot) is similar to the rest of it in poppiness, but is considerably less spacey.
I can honestly see why some hate the Cure, but I'm a fan.  They're a nice kinda mopey pop band, most of the time, if you ask me.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #9 on: 19 Jan 2008, 13:58 »

I really, really love the Cure, but I have to agree with Tommydski about the singles collections being a good choice. The Cure has some songs that are very different from eachother, but Smith really only sounds inventive when you distill some of the finest moments from his long career and compress them down to a disk or two. Eras and themes are the best way to look at it, I think; Smith's got a couple of wonderfully realized moods and musical themes to draw upon in his repertoire, but once you get to know the handful of styles he typically employs he doesn't really surprise you anymore, which can be kind of tiresome when you realize how many albums he's put out. I hate to denigrate any of the albums with the term filler, but there's a reason everyone's immediately pointing to Pornography and Disintegration.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #10 on: 19 Jan 2008, 14:13 »

How can you like The Cure?  The Cure is silly.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #11 on: 19 Jan 2008, 14:24 »

Their albums are a bit hit or miss and everything after Disintegration is pretty much horrible.

My favorites are Boys Don't Cry (first album, doesn't sound like their later work much at all, pop/new-wave/punk) and Disintegration (epic, sweeping, by far the best one to get if you like Sigur Ros or post-rock in general - the first song alone is worth the price of the entire album - also, if you synch it up with Disney's original Fantasia it fits perfectly).

Pornography is also pretty good, and the tommy-mentioned singles collection is almost pure gold, if you just want their early bouncy songs.

Also, Tricky's cover of "The Love Cats" is really great.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #12 on: 19 Jan 2008, 15:07 »

I sincerely had no idea that Robert Palmer had a career outside of "Addicted to Love" and "Simply Irresistable".

Man, I'd have loved to see that festival though.  The Cure in their early stages and Dire Straits (one of my all-time favorite bands ever).  Damn.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #13 on: 19 Jan 2008, 15:25 »

How can you like The Cure?  The Cure is silly.

I think anyone who really tries to make their mark on the world through music is going to be somewhat silly by default but I love them for it anyway.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #14 on: 19 Jan 2008, 15:26 »

I got into Dire Straits very early, due to the "Money For Nothing" video and the fact that Douglas Adams mentions them.  They're probably the first "good" band I ever liked; between '86 and '88 I bought all their albums.

Since then, I've come to regard Brothers in Arms as one of their weakest efforts, but I absolutely love Making Movies and Love Over Gold to this day.

Why don't I seem like a Dire Straits fan?  I listen to pretty much literally everything, as long as it's good.  And I thought I'd mentioned being a Bruce Springsteen fan on here; it's not a big stretch to connect early Boss with early Dire Straits.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #15 on: 19 Jan 2008, 16:39 »

"Money For Nothing" is one of their worst songs, and "Sultans of Swing" is their most early-career amateurish (though I still enjoy it).

However, between those two bookends they made some amazing music.  Songs like "Tunnel of Love", "Romeo and Juliet", the epic 15-minute "Telegraph Road"... they really were great.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #16 on: 19 Jan 2008, 17:29 »

Everyone missed my Achewood reference.  I actually do like The Cure, when they aren't being silly.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #17 on: 19 Jan 2008, 18:43 »

Ha, thanks! I guess I'll be picking up whichever of Staring at the Sea and Disintegration I spot first.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #18 on: 19 Jan 2008, 23:03 »

I had to post this:
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #19 on: 19 Jan 2008, 23:10 »

That's so bad it's almost good.

Not quite though.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #20 on: 19 Jan 2008, 23:11 »

Dire Straits are pretty boss. One of those bands I picked up from my dad, I suppose.

Last time I saw Buck 65 he used 15 seconds of "Close To Me" as the template for "Wicked and Weird". It was oddly thrilling.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #21 on: 19 Jan 2008, 23:57 »

"Walk Of Life" is pretty boss.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #22 on: 20 Jan 2008, 04:43 »

Also I was wrong and it turns out that Ray gives the driftwood to Teodor. I feel I have to clear these things up before they can become issues.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #23 on: 20 Jan 2008, 05:37 »

I was going to point that out, but I felt like I'd be unnecessarily butting into an ongoing conversation.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #24 on: 20 Jan 2008, 07:26 »

I was talking about when Roast Beef went to the moon.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #26 on: 20 Jan 2008, 14:01 »

This thread seems to have already resolved itself but I feel compelled to speak anyway. Shows what kind of annoying dick I am.

The Cure's discography can be divided into four easily delineated categories/eras. Their first album Three Imaginary Boys is very much a poppy upbeat punk record and is, along with assorted non-album recordings, it's own era.
The next three albums, Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography represent a dramatic downturn in mood and verve. Seventeen Seconds retains a little bit of the poppiness of Three Imaginary Boys, particularly the single "A Forest" but largely falls into a glum spell.  Faith is grey, grey and slow and mopey, but if you're a fan of Siouxsie, Joy Division and the like you might take a fancy anyways.  Pornography is considered by the fanboys to be some sort of fantastic holy grail of 80s goth rock (at that point you couldn't call their music much else). It's not, really. But with that in mind, it's not to say it isn't very good, it's just seriously over hyped, depending on who you choose to listen to. 
Pornography was the high watermark for The Cure's goth period, so of course the next album Robert Smith and the boys decide to do something else.
The Top is awkward and transitional. If you were already a fan and were interested as to how their sound developed from album to album, it'd be worth a listen or two. Otherwise, the singles from the period are fun, but the album is lackluster.  I always forget about it in the context of The Cure's greater body of work.
The third major period of The Cure's discography begins with The Head on the Door.  The Head on the Door combines much of their earlier mopiness and the attempted pop success of The Top in a way that actually (surprise) works.  It is one of the most widely beloved Cure albums by pretty much anyone who claims to enjoy The Cure.  It also features a handful of their most well known songs, like "In Between Days," "Six Different Ways" and "Close to Me." Following that is Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me.  It's a double album (whaaaat?). Yes, a double album.  And it's how The Cure poked it's nose into the American mainstream and left it there.  Here, the Cure become very, very silly.  There are bits of the Cure's trademark angst, occasionally longwinded, and other bits which showcase their ability to write concise pop songs.  But seriously? "Hot Hot Hot!!!" is practically self-parody.  At this point they kind of knew what was expected of them, and served it up above and beyond the top (ha) of their poppiest dreams.  Next came Disintegration.  On Disintegration, the band delved more thoroughly back into the angst and mope and gloom.  The songs are very good, but also on the long side.  I can't fathom how it would be considered very accessible, but it is considered by many their best album, as well as "the best album ever" by Kyle, from South Park. The album is also very lush and layered, marking the peak of this upward trend in production values and musical complexity from Three Imaginary Boys to Disintegration. Three Imaginary Boys is a very simple straightforward album; Disintegration is anything but.
4th and last comes the suck period.  We'll ignore it.  With genuine criticism and quality discernment. But that aside I still listen to pretty much any Cure single past that period, except from the self-titled. That shit was ugly. Except "The Promise." Uhh. Yeah.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #27 on: 20 Jan 2008, 15:20 »

You don't think Disintegration is accessible?  Really?  Maybe taken as a whole, okay, but "Plainsong" and "Pictures of You" are very accessible ways to open an album.  "Plainsong" in particular is something I can never say too many good things about, it is simply perfect and beautiful and anyone who finds it "difficult" probably needs a new set of ears.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #28 on: 20 Jan 2008, 16:19 »

I don't really have much to say about the Cure that hasn't already been said in this thread. Except for the fact that I really, really, really like the Cure. Also, because of this thread I am now rockin' out to Disintegration at work.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #30 on: 23 Jan 2008, 13:48 »

My knowledge of Dire Straits is basically 'Money For Nothing' and 'Sultans of Swing'. I didn't like those songs so I never investigated further.

gotta disagree with zero & yourself here, I love Money For Nothing, cheesy as it is.

still, that track notwithstanding, at least listen to those other songs he posted (Tunnel Of Love is my favourite by far, and Telegraph Road defines 'epic'), if not a whole album or three. absolutely classic band with a good range of material, it's worth delving deeper to see if you like anything.

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Re: The Cure
« Reply #31 on: 23 Jan 2008, 22:03 »

I went looking for my Dire Straits album because of this thread, and failing to find them, i turned to Youtube. Man, they did some shit videos (the Tunnel of Love one specially stands out) but the one for Walk of Life made me really happy.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #32 on: 26 Jan 2008, 06:50 »

An update; I bought Disintegration yesterday and I'm really enjoying it. I'll definitely be keeping and eye out for Staring at the Sea and Head on the Door. Thanks a lot everyone.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #33 on: 31 Jan 2008, 00:20 »

My answer to what is my favorite band is "The Cure until they edited Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me"  :lol: But I like Kiss Me and Disintegration as well.

Just to add my two cents. I love The Top, I believe it is a very uneven album (or transitional, as somebody said above), but Piggy in the mirror, Wailing Wall, the top and bananafishbones are great songs.

My favorites are the trilogy 17 seconds, pornography and Faith, they are pretty dark (I sound goth  :|)...  and the recording process was so unique and weird!



Staring at the sea is a good introduction, I agree. I wouldn't recommend anything after wish.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #34 on: 04 Feb 2008, 23:29 »

when you're in the right mood for them, the cure is a band who has all the right lyrics somwhere in that catalogue
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #35 on: 05 Feb 2008, 10:47 »

refuse to  put their songs in commercials

Wasn't "Pictures of You" in a HP photo printer ad a year or two back?
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #36 on: 05 Feb 2008, 11:25 »

I think Wish would be one of the best ep releases ever if they'd taken off all the crap songs.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #37 on: 05 Feb 2008, 11:56 »

I've never taken to a Cure album as much as Disintegration, but I might just need to give it more of a chance. Still, I'd recommend Disintegration.
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Re: The Cure
« Reply #38 on: 06 Feb 2008, 20:41 »

I basically love all of the Cure's singles.  My brother owns most of their stuff, and it's all pretty great.
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