Topic: the Guitar Pedal Thread (Read 402760 times)

FireAarro · « **Reply #350 on:** 16 Nov 2008, 15:50 »

Quote from: Ballard on 14 Nov 2008, 23:35

Man when we used to play at my old drummer's house (he lives on the third floor of a building with vaulted ceilings) we were once told that at band practice volume, we could be heard across the street in Riverside Park.

Mind you he lives on the western edge of Manhattan (the bustling metropolis section of New York you usually hear about) and the "street" in question empties out into a highway and is the divider between the end of the city grid and a sprawling park. So this is something like 50 feet down and 65 across.

So about 82 feet in a straight line!

Ballard · « **Reply #351 on:** 16 Nov 2008, 19:32 »

Just rock 'n' roll. I've never been much interested in metal or any abrasive, dissonant music. I suppose its just the acoustics provided by the wide open expanse created by the lack of buildings at the edge of the city.

FreshJive787 · « **Reply #352 on:** 16 Nov 2008, 19:56 »

i just found an early 90's sovtek big muff for $30 at a pawn shop last week.

just thought i would throw that out there.

Spluff · « **Reply #353 on:** 16 Nov 2008, 20:28 »

Did you buy it?

valley_parade · « **Reply #354 on:** 18 Nov 2008, 05:23 »

Yeah, might have to buy it myself and beat you over the head with it if you didn't.

Ballard · « **Reply #355 on:** 18 Nov 2008, 06:42 »

Man I need to hang around pawn shops more often.

You have no idea how many stories I've heard about getting nice gear ultra cheap at pawn shops.

FreshJive787 · « **Reply #356 on:** 18 Nov 2008, 14:37 »

yeah of course i bought it!

i kind of prefer it to an american one because the smoother distortion sounds nicer on a bluesy amp.

valley_parade · « **Reply #357 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 07:59 »

Yeah, the Russian ones are hell of smooth compared to the Americans.

doombilly · « **Reply #358 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 09:13 »

A friend from the Parker forum is unloading a bunch of his pedals. Some are custom jobs. Worth checking out!

http://www.diyguitarist.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=760

Ballard · « **Reply #359 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 12:12 »

All those overdrive and distortion units looked pretty rad until I listened to the sound samples. They're all rather muddy.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #360 on:** 22 Nov 2008, 21:01 »

Holy shit, you guys.

Ballard · « **Reply #361 on:** 22 Nov 2008, 21:32 »

Man that is cool but kind of pales in comparison to most Devi Ever and Z.Vex fuzz pedals. Also to the EHX MicroSynth.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #362 on:** 23 Nov 2008, 08:11 »

Yeah, it's kind of a fuzz, kind of a flanger, but it was still kind of cool.

valley_parade · « **Reply #363 on:** 23 Nov 2008, 09:19 »

Quote from: Ballard on 22 Nov 2008, 21:32

pales in comparison to most Devi Ever

You will someday be mine, Shoegazer. SOMEDAY.

Ballard · « **Reply #364 on:** 23 Nov 2008, 10:55 »

It isn't. You can only play one note at a time or it sounds really strange and amps generally can't handle it. Also it has an attack delay but no decay which means the notes just cut out awkwardly.

Ballard · « **Reply #365 on:** 24 Nov 2008, 10:32 »

I like it in spite of it, though I doubt I'd ever buy it. Maybe a POG or a HOG.

billiumbean · « **Reply #366 on:** 27 Nov 2008, 01:07 »

POGs are pretty kickass, and they have two outputs so you can effectify one channel and use the other for decoration.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #367 on:** 30 Nov 2008, 10:12 »

This is fucking cool.

Patrick · « **Reply #368 on:** 30 Nov 2008, 10:44 »

As posted in the Guitar Topic and the Blog Thread, I just got my final paycheck from work.

Gene, prepare to be made jealous, I'm getting that damn Tonebone Trimode as soon as I can deposit that fucker.

sean · « **Reply #369 on:** 30 Nov 2008, 12:30 »

I got myself a Holy Grail today. I haven't done much with it yet since I have a bunch of work to do but from what little I have done with it I can say oh my god yes

greenMonkey · « **Reply #370 on:** 30 Nov 2008, 17:08 »

Quote from: imapiratearg on 30 Nov 2008, 10:12

This is fucking cool.

WANT.

Tehz · « **Reply #371 on:** 30 Nov 2008, 18:54 »

That Clari(not) really is way too fucking cool.

billiumbean · « **Reply #372 on:** 30 Nov 2008, 23:27 »

Quote from: imapiratearg on 30 Nov 2008, 10:12

This is fucking cool.

I didn't know God was a guitar pedal.

Ballard · « **Reply #373 on:** 01 Dec 2008, 10:12 »

Fight you Patrick!

Patrick · « **Reply #374 on:** 01 Dec 2008, 10:34 »

^_______________^

doombilly · « **Reply #375 on:** 03 Dec 2008, 12:04 »

Quote from: Patrick on 30 Nov 2008, 10:44

I have a ToneBoner

Fixed.

JackOfShades · « **Reply #376 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 17:23 »

I've got a couple questions:

First up, anyone else try the Boss OS-2 ? I don't have much to compare it with, but it seems to give some decent dirt at the cost of being really noisy when you aren't playing.

Second, I recently picked up a FM100H head; as a solid-state head, would a Tube Screamer sound horrible with it?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #377 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 19:05 »

From what I've heard, yes. At least, from real gearheads. I have a friend who runs a Tube Screamer infront of a Line 6 Spyder, I think, and he says it sounds good.

Spluff · « **Reply #378 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 19:42 »

It won't work like it does with a tube amp, where it just overdrives the amp more. Instead it will give the solid state amp a vaguely tubish sound and a little bit of a set overdrive sound. It won't sound like ass, but it won't be brilliant either.

Ballard · « **Reply #379 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 20:06 »

If you want nice crunch on a solid-state amp, go for something less organic sounding like a ProCo RAT. TS-808s are overdrives, they're not meant to distort so much as to overdrive your tubes, creating natural distortion.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #380 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 20:20 »

Besides, RATs are better than everything else, ever.

(Except for Big Muffs. I have a huge boner for RATs and Big Muffs. Why anyone would use anything else is beyond me.)

Ballard · « **Reply #381 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 20:22 »

You obviously missed all of my wankery about the Radial Tonebone Trimode.

greenMonkey · « **Reply #382 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 21:24 »

Ok, so I would like to get an overdrive or distortion pedal. My amp is an old solid-state Traynor TS-50. It is very nice clean, and has a luscious spring reverb tank in it, but the gain is very sterile and is only good for Shellac-esque screeching. I would like to get some very warm, relaxed, smoothly overdriven tones, as that would be better for the band that I am currently playing in. I play mostly rhythm. What pedal (under $100) would be best for what I want?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #383 on:** 11 Dec 2008, 21:42 »

Quote from: Ballard on 11 Dec 2008, 20:22

You obviously missed all of my wankery about the Radial Tonebone Trimode.

It is quite possible I didn't find it all that impressive. I thought it was versatile and it sounded good, but I still love the gritty, brittle RAT tones. There is just something about it...

Ballard · « **Reply #384 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 11:48 »

Quote from: greenMonkey on 11 Dec 2008, 21:24

(under $100)

This complicates things. I suppose your best bet is a ProCo RAT as well.

october1983 · « **Reply #385 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 13:36 »

With the Rat, if you're vaguely confident with a soldering iron there's a fairly simple mod you can do that gives you the option of a warmer, softer distortion that's a little more overdrive-y at lower gain levels. I posted about it earlier in the thread.

Here, this is the thing: http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html. Only I added a switch to it, rather than cutting the resistor permanently.

crabjob · « **Reply #386 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 14:52 »

Speaking of pedal mods, I just got my Boss DD-6 back from Analogman for a high-end cut mod. Since the DD-6 is a digital delay (fail), the decays are super treble-y and pretty harsh to the ear. It sounds infinitely better than before. Every decay is pure and warmer than the previous. I will probably get a true analog delay at some point (probably a Memory Man) in the not-so-near future, but for now my modded DD-6 is awesome.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #387 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 21:13 »

Quote from: october1983 on 12 Dec 2008, 13:36

With the Rat, if you're vaguely confident with a soldering iron there's a fairly simple mod you can do that gives you the option of a warmer, softer distortion that's a little more overdrive-y at lower gain levels. I posted about it earlier in the thread.

Here, this is the thing: http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html. Only I added a switch to it, rather than cutting the resistor permanently.

Oh, right. The Reutz mod. Why anyone would ever want to change the way a RAT sounds is something I just do not understand.

Ballard · « **Reply #388 on:** 12 Dec 2008, 21:51 »

There's a way to install a Ruetz RAT switch so that it's reversible.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #389 on:** 13 Dec 2008, 05:57 »

Yeah, I know.

october1983 · « **Reply #390 on:** 13 Dec 2008, 07:28 »

The reason I did it is versatility, mainly - I love the way the RAT sounds as stock, but the idea of being able to get some warmer, more gentle distortion out of it as well is pretty appealing. I really don't understand why anyone would do something as permanent as cutting the resistor, because the original sound is great, but with the switch installed I have sonic options.

greenMonkey · « **Reply #391 on:** 22 Dec 2008, 21:07 »

What is the general opinion on the Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #392 on:** 22 Dec 2008, 23:07 »

I've heard good stuff about them. Here's a demo by World Music Supply.

valley_parade · « **Reply #393 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 06:52 »

EHX Double Muff = LOVE IT. It's so rad. The single channel is really fat sounding overdrive, and the double channel throws in some serious fuzz. Plus it comes in a cool-looking box.

nice! · « **Reply #394 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 08:50 »

hey, pedal noob here!
I was wondering how I could get the Phil Elverum/Microphones brand of Lo-Fi fuzz. What kind of pedals would I need?
Does he do it without pedals and just his amps overdrive?
Thanks.

glyphic · « **Reply #395 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 09:18 »

Everyone got me guitar center gift cards for christmas. Cash would have been so much better. Anyway, I'm thinking of picking up a delay pedal. I can't go over $250.

I was thinking about the AKAI E2 Headrush or the TC Electronics ND-1 Nova. Any suggestions?

imapiratearg · « **Reply #396 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 09:27 »

Boss RE-20 Space Echo. It's a pretty faithful recreation of the old Roland Space Echoes, and it's got a tap-tempo.

Quote from: nice! on 26 Dec 2008, 08:50

hey, pedal noob here!
I was wondering how I could get the Phil Elverum/Microphones brand of Lo-Fi fuzz. What kind of pedals would I need?
Does he do it without pedals and just his amps overdrive?
Thanks.

I think I read something somewhere that Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel would get this kind of distortion by overloading the microphones in the studio, but a good germanium or silicon fuzz might get you in the ballpark. Maybe even a Big Muff Pi.

valley_parade · « **Reply #397 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 09:29 »

Yep.

BlahBlah · « **Reply #398 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 09:53 »

Quote from: nice! on 26 Dec 2008, 08:50

hey, pedal noob here!
I was wondering how I could get the Phil Elverum/Microphones brand of Lo-Fi fuzz. What kind of pedals would I need?
Does he do it without pedals and just his amps overdrive?
Thanks.

Read http://e6townhall.com/showthread.php?t=12338 for some info.

"I'm pretty sure I've sussed it. That Early NMH/On Avery Island fuzz sound is an electro acoustic (i.e. one with an undersaddle pickup) run into the 4 track's mixer and yeah, you turn the input gain up like fuck and then pull it back with the fader (otherwise you go deaf). I approximated it on my cover of Snow Song Pt.1 (as I didn't have my 4 track at that point) by running the pickup into a very very cheap danelectro mini amp, with a tiny bit of gain on it. I then ran the headphone output of that into my 4 track.

EDIT: Oh yeah, pedals. As far as I can tell he only uses fuzz and I'm told that that's a Russian Big Muff. So there we are."

The Microphones sound is similar.

nice! · « **Reply #399 on:** 26 Dec 2008, 11:20 »

Sweet, thanks everyone!

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