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Dimmukane:
I think you should at least play a couple scenarios out of the back of the DM guide before you make a decision. We were very on the fence, too, until our little test game, against 4 kobolds in a room with a slime pit. Before playing, my DM was upset about the cutting out of several classes and a couple races, and he didn't know what to think about powers. The only qualm my DM really has now is with the lack of deities. Which, in all likelihood, is going to be expanded on in a later book.
frunK:
Meh, dieties are easy to ad-lib, i don't see the reason why you need to take them from the players hand book.
Whenever I'm a barbarian I usually worship a force or something anway, like Thunder.
Dimmukane:
Our DM has a thing for the lore, really. It doesn't matter to any non-cleric/paladin in our group that much. But I think he's trying to get us to REALLY play our characters this time, which is why he might be peeved about deities. He's not in tears over it or anything, though, that's just his last major complaint with the new systems.
Surgoshan:
His worst complaint is about purely optional fluff? Seriously?
Dimmukane:
Like I said, it's not much of a complaint. He originally was angry about the way they set up classes, but he didn't realize how much room they have to breathe until we played a bit.
He never got a chance to make us play our deities seriously, and now that they've taken away about 75% of them he just wishes they were still there. I think he was planning on doing that with the last campaign, but that kind of fell apart because of his girlfriend (new to DnD, previously playing NWN2:MotB, and wanting to cast all the crazy spells she didn't have made her not want to play as often, and scheduling issues arose around that). So I think he means to do it this campaign, and he wanted more options, I guess. It's more him than anybody else, I think the 15 or so they have is enough for me to choose from, and one of our guys always chooses Kord no matter what he plays, anyway.
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