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MusicScribbles:
Man, I don't mean to be a complete dick about my preferences, but Vampire is too angsty (You have an angst meter.) and Werewolf is about environmentalists. Hunter and Mage from Old World are where it is at.

About D&D, I can understand everything you are worried about Narr, but we should be discussing what we would like to see in 4th edition, and not what we are angry about that they are changing, because we don't know anything but rumors. I remember when I was in preschool and we played Whisper Down The Lane to learn about how rumors are spread. Please stop WHISPERING DOWN THE LANE.

Uber Ritter:
Man, seeing this comes up reminds me of what a nerd equivilent of an indy rock asshole cliche I can be.  I hear DnD and I have a irrational reaction that makes me flee the other way.  That said, DnD does genuinely turn me off on a personal level, just like many of us are turned off by My Chemical Romance not because it's popular but because it's not our thing.  I just don't like the whole genericized fantasy world thing (though I'm given to understand that many of the alternative settings ameliorate this somewhat.)  At least I'm not the archon of my game club.  He's a cool guy but I think he does more ferretting out cool indie games then he does actual gaming, which is unfortunate because some of the games he uncovers are real gems.

ackblom12:
I'm not seeing where they're nerfing magic at all really, but I'll leave it alone cause really, I'd like this thread not to explode.

Crit hits - I like the fact they're max damage now rather than multipliers. Besides being seemingly out of place in a system where they tried to turn everything else into simple addition and subtraction, it's not quite as game breaking along with still being a really damn good hit. I'm a little curious how they've been extended since it mentions a fireball critting during playtesting though.


Races - Really, as much as I love gnomes, I do have to agree that either they or halflings had to go to flesh out the other. Overall I think it's a good decision.

Drow look like they will be a core race for the Forgotten Realms, though they are not considered Elves anymore, they are now Fey. I also imagine they will be toned down a bit to fit the core races.

According to the rumors, a toned down Warforged is also being considered for the core book, probably to replace Half-Orcs, and I'd be pretty excited about that as well if it was confirmed.

There's tons of stuff we can be talking about, so lets do it!

MusicScribbles:
It looks like a lot of the old 'alternative' elves are now fey. I feel like the elves are even going to be considered fey now.

ackblom12:
I know Drow are going to be considered Fey, so it seems very likely.

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