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Some Stupid Asshole Invented A Taser Shotgun
jhocking:
--- Quote from: Anyways on 17 Feb 2008, 06:11 ---When you're fighting for your own life, I think instincts take over and all the ethics you've built up through careful consideration and lots of thinking flies right out the window.* If we're going to discuss this hypothetically all along we need to take our instincts into the equation.
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But therein lies the point of getting guns out of people's hands: you won't be able to make a rational decision when the time comes, so if you have a gun then you are going to make a huge mistake. By making a rational decision now, we avoid an irrational decision later.
Something Witty:
--- Quote from: RedLion on 17 Feb 2008, 01:13 ---But the concept of dehumanizing the person with cold hardness doesn't make sense to me. My problem would be going in the opposite direction--being so overcome with fury at the person who's attacking me that I would go overboard. Maybe I'm biased because I could see myself doing it, but that sort of thing seems semi-acceptable to me. Being calm and rational about killing someone, though, doesn't strike me as the same kind of deal. That's..how is that different from a cold-blooded killer? Even if a person is being hostile towards you, if you're completely cool about killing that person, my personal opinion is that your action--killing the person-- is actually the more condemnable one.
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No one who has said they would be okay with taking the life of their attacker. In fact, I'm the only one who has specifically made mention of dehumanizing the attacker for that purpose, and that isn't so I could be "okay" with it, that is so I could not be a broken mess of a person afterwards. I do have some pretty harsh views about it, I'll be the first to admit, but that's just the way I see things while sitting in a cushy chair with no pants on. The way I'll react in a real-world situation may be completely different. Besides that, it's not like I carry a gun everywhere I go.. Just most places.
negative creep:
I think Mr Hocking is right.
Something Witty:
A thought occurred to me while in the shower: Just what exactly is the difference between shooting someone(In justifiable self defense) and beating them to death in a fit of panic? Honestly. I want to know how they're different. The end result is the same, you hook a human life in defense of your own.
In scenario 1, you shoot the attacker 1-3 times, they fall over dead, or almost dead, and bleed out.
In scenario 2, you go into a fit of panic and adrenaline and start swinging. Over the course of the next several minutes you pummel your attacker into a bloody heap.
Given the choice of ways to die, I'd rather be shot.
Alex C:
There really isn't one. As Johnny C said earlier though, it's a question of severity and likelihood. It's a lot easier to realize you're going too far with your bare hands than it is to dial down the risk with a firearm.
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